I believe that with fewer decks there is much less chance that the dealer will get a blackjack at the same time a player gets one. The number of player blackjacks does increase slightly with fewer decks, but it isn't by a lot.
Someone correct me on this if I have it wrong.
Who told you this?
The dealers odds of blackjack are exactly the same. Why would it be any different? On the first 2 cards dealers have exactly the same odds as getting the same hand as anyone else,including all the stiffs.
> I believe that with fewer decks there is
> much less chance that the dealer will get a
> blackjack at the same time a player gets
> one. The number of player blackjacks does
> increase slightly with fewer decks, but it
> isn't by a lot.
> Someone correct me on this if I have it
> wrong.
> Who told you this?
> The dealers odds of blackjack are exactly
> the same. Why would it be any different? On
> the first 2 cards dealers have exactly the
> same odds as getting the same hand as anyone
> else,including all the stiffs.
If there are 2 cards removed from 2 decks and there are 7 aces remaining, is the dealer's chance of getting an ace the same as if 2 cards were removed from 6 decks and only 23 aces remain?
> If there are 2 cards removed from 2 decks
> and there are 7 aces remaining, is the
> dealer's chance of getting an ace the same
> as if 2 cards were removed from 6 decks and
> only 23 aces remain?
Does this mean the dealer gets more blackjacks at double deck than players do,isn't that what we're talking about?
> Does this mean the dealer gets more
> blackjacks at double deck than players
> do,isn't that what we're talking about?
No. In any given game the dealer has the same chance as a player of getting a blackjack. What we were talking about was how the number of decks in the game affects the chances of a dealer getting a blackjack on the same round as a player.
If you are playing a 6 deck game you are more likely to have your blackjack cancelled by the dealer getting a blackjack also, than if you were playing a single deck game.
"I believe that with fewer decks there is much less chance that the dealer will get a blackjack at the SAME TIME a player gets one."
Yes,you're correct,I reread your post and noticed the word "SAME TIME".
Sorry
> No. In any given game the dealer has the
> same chance as a player of getting a
> blackjack. What we were talking about was
> how the number of decks in the game affects
> the chances of a dealer getting a blackjack
> on the same round as a player.
> If you are playing a 6 deck game you are
> more likely to have your blackjack cancelled
> by the dealer getting a blackjack also, than
> if you were playing a single deck game.
but I was starting to think I had remembered that tidbit wrong, glad Norm came in when he did. :^)
> than 6 deck lets see the math with this one,
as the Vegas critters do preach this.
that's not because of the number of decks. Nearly all SD games are H17. And although H17 helps the dealer overall, it also increases dealer busts.
> I believe that with fewer decks there is
> much less chance that the dealer will get a
> blackjack at the same time a player gets
> one. The number of player blackjacks does
> increase slightly with fewer decks, but it
> isn't by a lot.
> Someone correct me on this if I have it
> wrong.
Um, you have it wrong.
As Dancer illustrated, the player will get more blackjacks with fewer decks.
Since the dealer is dealt the cards at the same time, the dealer will also get more blackjacks.
Now, if the player and the dealer are both getting more blackjacks, then it stands to reason that they will also get more of them at the same time.
However, (again as Dancer pointed out), the 3:2 BJ payout means that the player will come out ahead for the ones that do not occur at the same time. When the player and the dealer both have blackjack it is a push, so it doesn't hurt anything.
Note that the 3:2 blackjack payout is central to all of this. This is why it screws the game up so badly when the casinos start messing with the blackjack payout, a la 6:5 games.
Hi Parker,
My reasoning was something like this:
Heads-up game, 1 deck, I get an ace and something else, dealer has a 3/50 chance of getting an ace. (3 aces left in deck, 50 cards left in deck). So there is a 6% chance he will get an ace on the same round as I.
In 6 deck, he would have a 23/310 chance, about 7.4%.
I know the dealer has the same chance as any player to get a blackjack. The comment was that there is less chance the dealer will get a blackjack in the same round that a player does, when there are fewer decks.
Are you saying that the number of decks does not affect the chance of a dealer matching a player's blackjack on the same round?
I'm ready to be edgeamacated........
> Hi Parker,
> My reasoning was something like this:
> Heads-up game, 1 deck, I get an ace and
> something else, dealer has a 3/50 chance of
> getting an ace. (3 aces left in deck, 50
> cards left in deck). So there is a 6% chance
> he will get an ace on the same round as I.
> In 6 deck, he would have a 23/310 chance,
> about 7.4%.
Except that the cards aren't dealt like that. The dealer gives everyone a first card, including him/herself, and then deals the second card.
Sure, if you get an ace, the dealer is less likely to get a blackjack, but what about the times when the dealer gets the first ace? They cancel out.
> I know the dealer has the same chance as any
> player to get a blackjack. The comment was
> that there is less chance the dealer will
> get a blackjack in the same round that a
> player does, when there are fewer decks.
> Are you saying that the number of decks does
> not affect the chance of a dealer matching a
> player's blackjack on the same round?
No, I'm saying that the dealer is more likely to match a player's blackjack in a game with fewer decks, and it doesn't mean anything.
Although it is more likely for a BJ to appear in single deck, it is less likely for two BJs at the same time. Look at it this way, it is unlikely to see five BJs in one round in six decks. It is impossible in SD.
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