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  1. #14
    Franz Joseph
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    Franz Joseph: Newby, although you did not ask about software,

    you should also get practice software. Casino Verite is by far the best, followed by Blackjack 678.

  2. #15
    newby
    Guest

    newby: Re: Newby, although you did not ask about software

    > you should also get practice software.
    > Casino Verite is by far the best, followed
    > by Blackjack 678.

    Thank you very much. I'll start by carefully reading a couple of books, but then I'll certainly have to practice, and softwares definitely are a better way than casinos.

  3. #16
    newby
    Guest

    newby: Re: Newby, although you did not ask about software

    > you should also get practice software.
    > Casino Verite is by far the best, followed
    > by Blackjack 678.

    Do you know if it's possible to get these softwares for free somewhere?

    Thank you

  4. #17
    Parker
    Guest

    Parker: Why?

    > Do you know if it's possible to get these
    > softwares for free somewhere?

    It takes hundreds of hours of work to develop a good blackjack practice program or simulator. These products appeal to a limited market, so the developer is never going to make a great deal of money.

    Don't you think that they are entitled to some compensation for the great deal of work that they have done?

  5. #18
    newby
    Guest

    newby: Re: Why?

    > It takes hundreds of hours of work to
    > develop a good blackjack practice program or
    > simulator. These products appeal to a
    > limited market, so the developer is never
    > going to make a great deal of money.

    > Don't you think that they are entitled to
    > some compensation for the great deal of work
    > that they have done?

    If really the developer doesn't do much money, then yes indeed I agree that it is morally questionable to get the software for free. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the softwares usually developped and sold by awfully rich corporations?

  6. #19
    Parker
    Guest

    Parker: You are wrong

    > If really the developer doesn't do much
    > money, then yes indeed I agree that it is
    > morally questionable to get the software for
    > free. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but
    > aren't the softwares usually developped and
    > sold by awfully rich corporations?

    As I said, this sort of software appeals to an extremely limited market - the major software corporations have no interest in developing it.

    The programs others have mentioned such as Casino Verite, CVData, SBA, and Blackjack 678 were developed by dedicated individuals who are also advantage players, and whom you will often see posting on these pages (Norm Wattenberger, for example, is responsible for Casino Verite and CVData).

    The prices they charge for their products are extremely reasonable, considering the quality of the software, the degree of support you will receive, and the countless hours that they have invested in developing it.

  7. #20
    newby
    Guest

    newby: Re: You are wrong

    > As I said, this sort of software appeals to
    > an extremely limited market - the major
    > software corporations have no interest in
    > developing it.

    > The programs others have mentioned such as
    > Casino Verite, CVData, SBA, and Blackjack
    > 678 were developed by dedicated individuals
    > who are also advantage players, and whom you
    > will often see posting on these pages (Norm
    > Wattenberger, for example, is responsible
    > for Casino Verite and CVData).

    > The prices they charge for their products
    > are extremely reasonable, considering the
    > quality of the software, the degree of
    > support you will receive, and the countless
    > hours that they have invested in developing
    > it.

    In these conditions I totally agree that paying the full price is the only possible option. I'll be glad to encourage such dedicated individuals.

  8. #21
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: Re: Why?

    > If really the developer doesn't do much
    > money, then yes indeed I agree that it is
    > morally questionable to get the software for
    > free.

    No, it is not 'morally questionable.' It is flat out immoral and a felony punishable by five years in prison.

  9. #22
    newby
    Guest

    newby: Re: Why?

    > No, it is not 'morally questionable.' It is
    > flat out immoral and a felony punishable by
    > five years in prison.

    Alright I agree. I meant no offense by my message. Sorry.

  10. #23
    Sun Runner
    Guest

    Sun Runner: Norm -are you an "awfully rich corporation?" *NM*


  11. #24
    newby
    Guest

    newby: Re: Norm -are you an "awfully rich corporation?"

    Alright alright. I didn't know Norm made the software. Sorry if I insulted anybody; it's obvious that I didn't mean it.

  12. #25
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: I'll ask my Anderson auditor *NM*


  13. #26
    Viktor Nacht
    Guest

    Viktor Nacht: Don't forget to ask "What's in the shredder?" - V *NM*


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