if i want to backcount a multi-deck game using k-o and i arrive at the game mid-shoe, do i guesstimate the # of decks left to play and then adjust my key count to my irc? example using 0 irc: 3 decks left: irc 0, key count 8
5 decks left: irc 0, key count 13
thank you
> if i want to backcount a multi-deck game
> using k-o and i arrive at the game mid-shoe,
First mistake: don't arrive mid-shoe; arrive at the beginnng.
> do i guesstimate the # of decks left to play
"Guesstimate"? No, if it were the right thing to do (which it isn't), you would look at the discard tray, determine precisely how many decks have already been dealt, and then determine accurately how many remain to be played. If this is "guesswork" for you, then you're not ready to count yet.
That said, such a method would be totally wrong for the situation at hand (see below).
> and then adjust my key count to my irc?
> example using 0 irc: 3 decks left: irc 0,
> key count 8
> 5 decks left: irc 0, key count 13
None of the above. You make believe that the first card you see dealt is being dealt off the top of the shoe, and you mentally place all of the already dealt cards back in the shoe, as if they were behind the stop-card, never to be dealt.
Don
Mid shoe is usually too late but if you miss say a deck or so, then this is the same as putting those cards behind the cut card which gives less penetration. There have been times when I was back counting that even though a deck or so had been played, all the little cards just kept coming out. In these situations even if you arrive a little late it could still be worth jumping in depending on the count.
> if i want to backcount a multi-deck game
> using k-o and i arrive at the game mid-shoe,
> do i guesstimate the # of decks left to play
> and then adjust my key count to my irc?
> example using 0 irc: 3 decks left: irc 0,
> key count 8
> 5 decks left: irc 0, key count 13
> thank you
> First mistake: don't arrive mid-shoe; arrive
> at the beginnng.
> "Guesstimate"? No, if it were the
> right thing to do (which it isn't), you
> would look at the discard tray, determine
> precisely how many decks have already been
> dealt, and then determine accurately how
> many remain to be played. If this is
> "guesswork" for you, then you're
> not ready to count yet.
> That said, such a method would be totally
> wrong for the situation at hand (see below).
> None of the above. You make believe that the
> first card you see dealt is being dealt off
> the top of the shoe, and you mentally place
> all of the already dealt cards back in the
> shoe, as if they were behind the stop-card,
> never to be dealt.
> Don
i had feeling(hehe)........thank you
> "Guesstimate"? No, if it were the
> right thing to do (which it isn't), you
> would look at the discard tray, determine
> precisely how many decks have already been
> dealt, and then determine accurately how
> many remain to be played. If this is
> "guesswork" for you, then you're
> not ready to count yet.
I would have thought a KO counter could do just fine without this skill?
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