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    JR
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    JR: ROR & Hourly Rate?

    With a bankroll of $1400 and a betting spread of 1-4 @ $5-$20 in a typical 1D game downtown LV or in Reno ie: $5 @ 1 or lower, $10 @ 2, $15 @ 3, and $20 @ 4 or higher.....what would the ROR % be and also what would the expected hourly rate be? What would the figures change to with a bankroll of $1000? By typical 1D game I mean DOA and H17. Would this be an OK way to start for a total newbie 'advantage player' counting cards and using BS play variations? All replies appreciated.

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    Coug Fan
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    Coug Fan: Impact of BR and Pen

    > With a bankroll of $1400 and a betting
    > spread of 1-4 @ $5-$20 in a typical 1D game
    > downtown LV or in Reno ie: $5 @ 1 or lower,
    > $10 @ 2, $15 @ 3, and $20 @ 4 or
    > higher.....what would the ROR % be and also
    > what would the expected hourly rate be? What
    > would the figures change to with a bankroll
    > of $1000? By typical 1D game I mean DOA and
    > H17. Would this be an OK way to start for a
    > total newbie 'advantage player' counting
    > cards and using BS play variations? All
    > replies appreciated.

    This may be more data than you want, but I think it is critical to understand the impact of two things - Bankroll and Pen. I assumed 2 pen levels (not too familiar with current Reno pen). At 26/52 pen, your EV per 100 hands is $5.70. Your ROR is 20.3% for a $1,400 bank and 32.1% for a $1,000 bank. Generally speaking, it is not wise to play to an ROR > 13.5%.

    At 31/52 pen (just 6 more cards dealt, or a little more than 1 extra round heads-up), the EV per 100 hands is $9.50 (66% increase) and the ROR is 10.7% and 20.3%, so this game might be playable with $1,400, depending on how upset would you be if you lost the entire $1,400.

    To illustrate the importance of BR, I used BJRM to solve for desired ROR%'s (Really cool feature). At 26/52 pen, you need $1,765 BR to get a 13.5% ROR, and $2,645 BR to get 5% ROR. At 31/52 pen, these amounts are $1,255 and $1,880 respectively.

    So, to sum up, you may want to wait until you build your BR up a bit more, unless you can find really good pen.

    On a side note, BJRM is awesome. I got all of the above data in < 5 minutes. It took me longer than that to type up this response. The applications of this program are excellent.

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    JR
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    JR: Re: Impact of BR and Pen

    > This may be more data than you want, but I
    > think it is critical to understand the
    > impact of two things - Bankroll and Pen. I
    > assumed 2 pen levels (not too familiar with
    > current Reno pen). At 26/52 pen, your EV per
    > 100 hands is $5.70. Your ROR is 20.3% for a
    > $1,400 bank and 32.1% for a $1,000 bank.
    > Generally speaking, it is not wise to play
    > to an ROR > 13.5%.

    > At 31/52 pen (just 6 more cards dealt, or a
    > little more than 1 extra round heads-up),
    > the EV per 100 hands is $9.50 (66% increase)
    > and the ROR is 10.7% and 20.3%, so this game
    > might be playable with $1,400, depending on
    > how upset would you be if you lost the
    > entire $1,400.

    > To illustrate the importance of BR, I used
    > BJRM to solve for desired ROR%'s (Really
    > cool feature). At 26/52 pen, you need $1,765
    > BR to get a 13.5% ROR, and $2,645 BR to get
    > 5% ROR. At 31/52 pen, these amounts are
    > $1,255 and $1,880 respectively.

    > So, to sum up, you may want to wait until
    > you build your BR up a bit more, unless you
    > can find really good pen.

    > On a side note, BJRM is awesome. I got all
    > of the above data in
    Thanks a lot for the figures...very enlightening!

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