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Thread: brownian bridge: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

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    brownian bridge
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    brownian bridge: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    what is the "CBS" for multideck game with typical conditions of betting scheme, betting system, rules, and penetration?

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    brownian bridge
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    brownian bridge: Re: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    If there are 2 BJ players, A and B.
    Both players use Hi-Lo and change betting amount
    according to Hi-Lo TC.
    But for playing and insurance decisions,
    player A uses full(or illustrious 18) indices of Hi-Lo.
    Player B uses a modified BS which is count-independent.

    in some circumstances, player B yields more than palyer A?

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    OldCootFromVA
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    OldCootFromVA: I believe you can buy...

    ...the CBS cards right here out of the RGE Catalogue.

    In general (and theoretically), CBS is not as good as normal hi-lo, except that it frees your brain from most of the mental work. You still have to calculate the TC for betting purposes, however.

    I've heard it alleged that the MIT team didn't really start to win money until they switched to CBS.

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    > If there are 2 BJ players, A and B.
    > Both players use Hi-Lo and change betting amount
    > according to Hi-Lo TC.
    > But for playing and insurance decisions,
    > player A uses full(or illustrious 18) indices of
    > Hi-Lo.
    > Player B uses a modified BS which is
    > count-independent.

    > in some circumstances, player B yields more than
    > palyer A?

    No, absolutely not. I remember that Werthamer had some sort of silly notion like that, but it makes no sense whatsoever.

    Don

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    G Man
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    G Man: Re: I believe you can buy...

    > I've heard it alleged that the MIT team didn't really
    > start to win money until they switched to CBS.

    This is pure B*** S***

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    brownian bridge
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    brownian bridge: Re: I believe you can buy...

    > ...the CBS cards right here out of the RGE Catalogue.

    > In general (and theoretically), CBS is not as good as
    > normal hi-lo, except that it frees your brain from
    > most of the mental work. You still have to calculate
    > the TC for betting purposes, however.

    > I've heard it alleged that the MIT team didn't really
    > start to win money until they switched to CBS.

    may be possible to figure out by using commercial simulator.
    first, configuring specific conditions of rules,
    betting scheme, and penetration.
    and then comparing sim results of different playing actions.

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    OldCootFromVA
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    OldCootFromVA: Probably

    Now I'm trying to remember where I heard/saw that allegation.

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    brownian bridge
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    brownian bridge: Re: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    on page 106 of "Risk and Reward", he uses "Brownian bridge" as
    mathematical model of true count. but it contradicts True count theorem.

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    G Man
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    G Man: Re: Probably

    The confusion probably comes from the fact that the GBPs were using a modify BS for playing positive count only. Their BS would dictate standing on hands like 16 vs 10 or surrendering 8-8 vs 10 as an example.

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    > on page 106 of "Risk and Reward", he uses
    > "Brownian bridge" as
    > mathematical model of true count. but it contradicts
    > True count theorem.

    And common sense, logic, simulation and about anything else you can imagine.

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    brownian bridge
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    brownian bridge: Re: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    Maybe his term TC can be translated into RC of some unbalanced systems
    such as KO, Uston SS, Brh.......perhaps?

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    brownian bridge
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    brownian bridge: Re: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    I remember Grosjean demonstrated a system using Hi-Lo's RC instead of TC.

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    maguder
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    maguder: Re: N. Richard Werthamer's concept of Counter Basic Strategy(CBS)

    I believe the following treatise has been published by Springer-Verlag co.

    A mathematical biologist spends his vacation hiking in the Scottish highlands. One day, he encounters a shepherd with a large herd of sheep. One of these cuddly, woolly animals would make a great pet, he thinks...
    "How much for one of your sheep?" he asks the shepherd.
    "They aren't for sale", the shepherd replies.
    The math biologist ponders for a moment and then says: "I will give you the precise number of sheep in your herd without counting. If I'm right, don't you think that I deserve one of them as a reward?"
    The shepherd nods.
    The math biologist says: "387".
    The shepherd is silent for a while and then says: "You're right. I hate to loose any of my sheep, but I promised: One of them is yours. Have your pick!"
    The math biologist grabs one of the animals, puts it on his shoulders, and is about to march on, when the shepherd says: "Wait! I will tell you what your profession is, and if I'm right I'll get the animal back."
    "That's fair enough."
    "You must be a mathematical biologist."
    The man is stunned. "You're right. But how could you know?"
    "That's easy: You gave me the precise number of sheep without counting - and then you picked my dog..."


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