Jack Fate: Why is it......

[Ouchez]

> Because of the variance which Parker talks
> about, over 90% of the time you will be
> lower than the high you have had previously.
> So 90% of the time it seems like you are
> behind. You are either setting an all-time
> higher high, then you lose some of it back,
> which means you are playing 'catch up'
> almost all the time.

some games are so good that you can actually be pulling ahead 90% of the time. Under the right conditions, and the correct skillz.

Regards,
Ouchez.

[shuffle]

> some games are so good that you can actually
> be pulling ahead 90% of the time. Under the
> right conditions, and the correct skillz.

> Regards,
> Ouchez.

As a non-counter, I have had sessions where I got ahead and stayed ahead for two hours or more. I was pressing on winning hands and dropping back after a loss. Was I just extremely lucky or was I doing something right on my own?

[Parker]

> As a non-counter, I have had sessions where
> I got ahead and stayed ahead for two hours
> or more. I was pressing on winning hands and
> dropping back after a loss. Was I just
> extremely lucky or was I doing something
> right on my own?

If you're not counting (or using another form of advantage play), then all winning sessions are due to positive variance, aka "luck."

Note: "pressing on winning hands and dropping back after a loss" is not a form of advantage play.

[Jack Fate]

The thing thats becoming increasingly aparent is how profound poor or mediocre pen effects your results. If you don't see good pen you seldom see the counts you need to see to get the money out.A +6 running count with 3 decks left is a whole lot different than a +6 with 1 1/2 left to play.

[Ouchez]

[Ouchez]

> As a non-counter, I have had sessions where
> I got ahead and stayed ahead for two hours
> or more. I was pressing on winning hands and
> dropping back after a loss. Was I just
> extremely lucky or was I doing something
> right on my own?

a positive shoe and not known it.

I have seen some amazing things happen and I have been the receipient on a few occasions.

Regards,
Ouchez.

[shuffle]

> a positive shoe and not known it.

> I have seen some amazing things happen and I
> have been the receipient on a few occasions.

> Regards,
> Ouchez.

I just want to know something.. Do these ever happen to advantage players:
1) Play several hands in a row where the dealer can only manage to show a 10 or 9 up, then draw to 18 or 19 while you make 17's?
2) Get beat on your 19's and 20's and push on 21's?
3)Place your top bets, dealer shows a 6 up, you have a rare 20 ( after busting on several stiffs in a row), dealer then proceeds to make a 6-card 21!

Just wondering if these EVER happen to anybody other than ME.

[Sun Runner]

> I just want to know something.. Do these
> ever happen to advantage players:

All the time.

Just wondering re: your question number 3. How do you decide to bet 'big' or not? I think you called it pressing your bet earlier. Are you referring to BS doubles and splits or something else?

[shuffle]

> All the time.

> Just wondering re: your question number 3.
> How do you decide to bet 'big' or not? I
> think you called it pressing your bet
> earlier. Are you referring to BS doubles and
> splits or something else?

Simply put, If I have won several hands in a row, chipping up in the process, maybe getting to four or five units, feeling good about finally getting ahead in the session, including getting my splits and doubles, then dealer pulls out some magic.(I added a #4 to my previous post)

[shuffle]

> I just want to know something.. Do these
> ever happen to advantage players:
> 1) Play several hands in a row where the
> dealer can only manage to show a 10 or 9 up,
> then draw to 18 or 19 while you make 17's?
> 2) Get beat on your 19's and 20's and push
> on 21's?
> 3)Place your top bets, dealer shows a 6 up,
> you have a rare 20 ( after busting on
> several stiffs in a row), dealer then
> proceeds to make a 6-card 21!
4)Win your small bets in negative counts, lose big bets in positive counts.
> Just wondering if these EVER happen to
> anybody other than ME.

[Ouchez]

> I just want to know something.. Do these
> ever happen to advantage players:
> 1) Play several hands in a row where the
> dealer can only manage to show a 10 or 9 up,
> then draw to 18 or 19 while you make 17's?
> 2) Get beat on your 19's and 20's and push
> on 21's?
> 3)Place your top bets, dealer shows a 6 up,
> you have a rare 20 ( after busting on
> several stiffs in a row), dealer then
> proceeds to make a 6-card 21!

> Just wondering if these EVER happen to
> anybody other than ME.

it happens and this is when you must put all your skillz into play!

As I have said it is a war where you put your money on the line and sometimes your reputation. It can be tough as hell. But ya, IT HAPPENS. It is worse for the counter when you are spreading big and getting manure and you know the score.

You just must learn to overcome by calling upon all your knowledge and keeping cool, unless your act is to do otherwise.

Regards,
Ouchez.

[MrPill]

> I just want to know something.. Do these
> ever happen to advantage players:
> 1) Play several hands in a row where the
> dealer can only manage to show a 10 or 9 up,
> then draw to 18 or 19 while you make 17's?
> 2) Get beat on your 19's and 20's and push
> on 21's?
> 3)Place your top bets, dealer shows a 6 up,
> you have a rare 20 ( after busting on
> several stiffs in a row), dealer then
> proceeds to make a 6-card 21!

> Just wondering if these EVER happen to
> anybody other than ME.

Shuffle,

This stuff even happens to counters when the count calls for max bets. You know you have the advantage and there are a lot more 10's in the shoe but it seems that sometimes it just falls the wrong way.

I've learned to trust the math and just be patient. I no longer doubt my abilities after 3 positive years of play.

As far as your results, who knows. With only BS you had no idea of your advantage or disadvantage. The cards just fall as they are going to fall. The best you can do is to find the best game that you can and hope you are on the positive side of the standard deviation. If you play long enough though, the math says you will end up negative in the long run with just BS.

Pill