Surveillance catches dealer mispay - floor asks for the money back

[21forme]

I got a max bet paid off on a loss-it was the last hand of the shoe. I tipped the dealer 10% and promptly left the casino. Returned two weeks later and nothing came of it.

That's risky. They could have claimed collusion and arrested both of you.

[DSchles]

Seems well-handled all around.

Yes, that was decent of them. Bottom line: I'm sure we all have kept mispays on purpose. In fact, when new casinos open, APs flock there just to get the mispays from all the new dealers during the break-in period.

However, the simple and LEGAL bottom line is that you're no more entitled to keep a mispay than you are to keep a bank deposit error, when your $100.00 becomes $10,000 on your statement. The money simply is NOT yours.

I would have asked to see the tape. I see no reason why they wouldn't show it to you. It's for both parties' protection. Suppose THEY were the ones who thought they saw something that they didn't? Not likely, but possible nonetheless. Calling it a push in your case was a gift.

Don

[Three]

I see no reason why they wouldn't show it to you.

I ask to see it every time. I have yet to get to see a tape. They say that just isn't going to happen.

When any of us think about not paying it back, just remember you are often being tolerated. Any little reason for them to act against you will usually result in the end of your time with this casino and maybe other ones the exchange info with.

I lost my 3 favorite casinos when one I didn't play at much shared with one I rarely played at. When I showed up at the latter a flier or bolo went out that cost me my 3 bread and butter casinos. My other main moneymaker seemed like shared info may have contributed to my end. The signs were there that things were coming to an end. I had won way more than I thought I could without any action against me. My comps were drying up. But the timing was the next visit after a casino up the road took action against me.

Sometimes to win the war you need to lose some of the battles.

[Jabberwocky]

That's risky. They could have claimed collusion and arrested both of you.

I wanna see 'em prove collusion.

[21forme]

However, the simple and LEGAL bottom line is that you're no more entitled to keep a mispay than you are to keep a bank deposit error

Don - I believe this is incorrect. I recall BobN talking about this on GWAE and he said gambling debts such as mispays (to be distinguished from markers) are not collectible under US law. Does anyone else recall this comment from BobN?

[21forme]

I wanna see 'em prove collusion.

They don't have to prove it. They just have to have you arrested, then you have several $K in legal expenses to deal with.

[Jabberwocky]

They don't have to prove it. They just have to have you arrested, then you have several $K in legal expenses to deal with.

Won't cost me anything. I do all my own legal work.

[blueman]

It is also possible that theft charges would be filed against you. Just not worth it IMO.

How? They dont know who i am and told me to never come back

[tomf23]

for 1000 dollars i'd tell them go to hell unless it's owned my mgm since i play poker at their properties

[stopgambling]

for 1000 dollars i'd tell them go to hell unless it's owned my mgm since i play poker at their properties

maybe he can get 50x to 100x as much without pissing the store off. i would do it at 3k to 5k though provided it is the only store i will lose and they don't worth much .

[tomf23]

maybe he can get 50x to 100x as much without pissing the store off. i would do it at 3k to 5k though provided it is the only store i will lose and they don't worth much .

Sure and if he could get 30-50x he should
But if they went far back to find the error I'd be worried my days were numbered anyway as they probably watched a lot of my play

Additionally I don't have any casinos locally and personally there aren't any games I'm playing where I'd be able to suck out that much ev over based on my spread before getting the boot

[stopgambling]

But if they went far back to find the error I'd be worried my days were numbered anyway as they probably watched a lot of my play

This part makes perfect sense .

[stopgambling]

all i can say is if it is $500 mispay , they would probably catch it . It doesn't necessarily means they are watching everything but it is a good idea to keep that in mind.