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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronbog View Post
    If the rules and conditions are the same, and the program is fair, there should be no difference. There is an obvious problem when it comes to verifying the latter. Drawing any conclusions from a few sessions is useless.
    Doesn't constant reshuffling lower the house edge for the basic strategy player?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    "Doesn't constant reshuffling lower the house edge for the basic strategy player?"
    The basic strategist's play is unaffected by depth of penetration. One round or many rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    Doesn't constant reshuffling lower the house edge for the basic strategy player?
    If the cards are shuffled after every hand rather than dealt from a shoe then there is a small reduction in the house edge due to the cut card effect. The lower the number of decks the greater the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebuilder View Post
    If the cards are shuffled after every hand rather than dealt from a shoe then there is a small reduction in the house edge due to the cut card effect. The lower the number of decks the greater the difference.
    While this is correct, it is certain that it is more than entirely offset by the greater number of hands per hour (20%?) that one will play at a CSM, for lack of shuffle time. So, to me, it is clear that the basic strategy player will surely lose more per hour at a CSM than at a hand-shuffled game, despite the lack of the CCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    While this is correct, it is certain that it is more than entirely offset by the greater number of hands per hour (20%?) that one will play at a CSM, for lack of shuffle time. So, to me, it is clear that the basic strategy player will surely lose more per hour at a CSM than at a hand-shuffled game, despite the lack of the CCE.

    Don
    Yes, agreed. The effect of playing online and the use of a CSM is the same which will lead to greater losses for the BS player due to the increased speed of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebuilder View Post
    Yes, agreed. The effect of playing online and the use of a CSM is the same which will lead to greater losses for the BS player due to the increased speed of the game.
    ditto.

    To the OP, kozlikha, nothing short of counting or taking advantage of promotions will net you a long-term advantage. Even then, you'd still have swings.

    If you're looking for fun. I'd imagine the best bang for your buck is the live deal blackjack. You'll have a low average loss/hours and might get more enjoyment per hand.
    If you're trying to make money I think the best advice would be to look for something outside of gambling. Gambling isn't the place you should look to make a quick buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    Doesn't constant reshuffling lower the house edge for the basic strategy player?
    Yes. CSM's have a slightly lower HE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Yes. CSM's have a slightly lower HE.
    I would imagine that software (assuming that it's coded in a way such that it's mathematically valid and equivalent in all ways to the real thing) would get you a slightly slightly lower HE since they allegedly (most) shuffle after each round.

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