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Anonymous: Does 18 v. 8 have a positive expectation?
I'm interested in the answer to this from a basic strategy perspective. In other words, if you have an 18 and the dealer has an 8 up, should you pull your bet back if given the option to (because of a dealer error, etc.), or should you play the hand out (standing, as prescribed by BS)?
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Chartist: You have edge--play it! *NM*
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C: Re: Does 18 v. 8 have a positive expectation?
In a 6-deck game, the hand T8v8 is quoted in Cacarulo's tables as having an edge of 10.4% for the player.
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suicyco maniac: Grosjean's book
> I'm interested in the answer to this from a
> basic strategy perspective. In other words,
> if you have an 18 and the dealer has an 8
> up, should you pull your bet back if given
> the option to (because of a dealer error,
> etc.), or should you play the hand out
> (standing, as prescribed by BS)?
James Grosjean's book "beyond counting"has a section dealing with this topic and which hands to pull back or play. I truly beleive everyone should have a copy of his book.
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David: Re: It's in Revere's book
According to Revere, you will get 18 vs 8 290 times out of 100,000 hands, and will win 28 units. It is a small advantage of 0.33%
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Mr. Ed: Re: Does 18 v. 8 have a positive expectation?
Over on BJMath.com, there is a table that shows an expectation for every 2 card vs dealer upcard combination, for various games.
> I'm interested in the answer to this from a
> basic strategy perspective. In other words,
> if you have an 18 and the dealer has an 8
> up, should you pull your bet back if given
> the option to (because of a dealer error,
> etc.), or should you play the hand out
> (standing, as prescribed by BS)?
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Fred Renzey: Re: You have edge--play it!
In a shoe game, you're a tad better than a 6-to-5 favorite with 18 against an 8. It's one of those hands that you can offer to buy from the player next to you by paying him say, $26 for his $25 hand. 19 against a playable 10 is another.
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