Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
Enough already. You've both made your points. Now it's just a question on who insists on getting the last word.

Don
I'm sure that happens a lot on the internet, but that has nothing to do with my motivation here. People post these things and when they don't get corrected, other people read them, and it becomes "common knowledge." There's a lot of "common knowledge" on the subject of cheating that is totally false. People think American casinos never cheat. That's ridiculous, they cheat all the time. They don't mark decks that often, but they'll deny payouts, steal chips, rig drawings, and lie to law enforcement in an attempt to get law enforcement to steal from the patron. But individual dealers definitely do cheat. I've posted a number of examples of that, and I've observed it personally.


This isn't some unimportant topic, either. I would suggest that anyone who is serious about advantage play should get very familiar with cheating techniques, because it definitely happens. Especially in the poker room and in international casinos. I've seen all kinds of cheating in poker rooms.


Archvaldor posted a claim that was just completely, totally wrong. He said it "isn't possible" to detect cheating by a casino. That's just wrong. Not only that, but it was dismissive of information that was correct and useful to APs. Go back and look at the thread. I was giving detailed information about a specific situation, and he just poo poos it away. People read that kind of comment and think "Oh, maybe I don't actually need to bother learning how cheating can happen." That's why it's dangerous and needs to be addressed.


You don't tolerate this kind of crap when it comes to people posting nonsense like "card counting doesn't work" or telling people they have to use Hi Opt II with 3 side counts to make money. I've seen you absolutely go off on people. And they deserved it, because they were persisting in posting misinformation even after being corrected.