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    I’m surprised this “bust rate” topic has generated so much discussion. This seems super simple to me. The context is having a play to make which has an index. To determine indexes, we run index sims which run billions of hands and it tells us when to hit or stand based on the TC. However much the dealer busts is already factored into the index, along with many other things. To then try to shoehorn in the bust rate, which is already built into the index, is not going to help in any possible way. It’s totally useless information which can only cause confusion, delay, and bad decisions. Whether to hit or stand is decided by which option has a higher EV at each TC, determined by simulation, or by calculation for masochists.


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    I actually believe the bust rate discussion should go on and on because new counting methods are invented everyday. Think about this large portion of the dealer bust rate of 28%, and this provides a large room for developing better counts. People are not limited to HiLo only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I actually believe the bust rate discussion should go on and on because new counting methods are invented everyday. Think about this large portion of the dealer bust rate of 28%, and this provides a large room for developing better counts. People are not limited to HiLo only.
    Can you please stop with this? It's really counterproductive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I actually believe the bust rate discussion should go on and on because new counting methods are invented everyday. Think about this large portion of the dealer bust rate of 28%, and this provides a large room for developing better counts. People are not limited to HiLo only.
    Regardless of the count system, HiLo or otherwise, you decide how to play a hand based on an index for the play, for plays that have indexes that exist. The index from simulation has already factored into it the outcomes where the dealer busts. What additional gain is possible by knowing the bust rate? None. If you think otherwise, provide a concrete example. Under what condition would you use the bust rate information while ignoring the index? If you ignore the index, you are playing less than optimal.

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    I have been promoting this new idea. It is possible to beat the game of blackjack by varying the number of hands to play while betting flat all the way. How to do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I have been promoting this new idea. It is possible to beat the game of blackjack by varying the number of hands to play while betting flat all the way. How to do this?
    Are you just a troll? Seriously, what the hell? You state as a fact that you can beat the game by changing the number of hands, and you are promoting the idea. Then you ask how to do it. Do you get how backwards that is?

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    I am not a troll. I am just a beginner AP player. This logic of beating blackjack by switching from one-hand to two-hand play is solid. Here I show you again. When the dealer is more likely to bust, you play two-hand; when the dealer is less likely to bust, you play one-hand. The only indicator I need is the dealer's bust rate at that instant. I post here to seek your confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I am not a troll. I am just a beginner AP player. This logic of beating blackjack by switching from one-hand to two-hand play is solid. Here I show you again. When the dealer is more likely to bust, you play two-hand; when the dealer is less likely to bust, you play one-hand. The only indicator I need is the dealer's bust rate at that instant. I post here to seek your confirmation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    I am not a troll. I am just a beginner AP player. This logic of beating blackjack by switching from one-hand to two-hand play is solid. Here I show you again. When the dealer is more likely to bust, you play two-hand; when the dealer is less likely to bust, you play one-hand. The only indicator I need is the dealer's bust rate at that instant. I post here to seek your confirmation.
    You are trolling and gaslighting, because that's the dumbest idea ever. Is your stock market strategy to buy low and sell high? I bet it is. Brilliant! Hey, if you know the dealer is going to bust, instead of playing 2 hands, why not just play 1 hand with a big bet, and then bet small when the dealer isn't going to bust? Wow it is so simple!

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    aceside, you should take the same kind of strategy and apply it to sports betting. All you have to do is bet on a team when they are going to win, but don't bet when they are going to lose. It's a solid strategy.

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