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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    The AP would figure this (bogus) scenario out and crush the casino.
    There are many different ways that the pack can be possibly programmed at times while the cards are in the machine itself. I'm sure a few individuals know how to exploit this but the casinos apparently are not impressed as the placement of the cut card is often very deep compared to hand shuffled games, including at some sweat houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    There are many different ways that the pack can be possibly programmed at times while the cards are in the machine itself. I'm sure a few individuals know how to exploit this but the casinos apparently are not impressed as the placement of the cut card is often very deep compared to hand shuffled games, including at some sweat houses.
    There were sweat houses that used to cut 4.5D/6D in normal time and change to 3.2D/6D when an AP sat down. Now they ALWAYS cut 5.2D/6D or 5.5D/6D on their ASM tables. Don't tell me these sweat houses suddenly have a change of heart. And I saw AP playing using the classic way lose big money. I know a dentist with huge bankroll but he is losing big. He said he lost 80% of the trips in a very long time, like two years. I don't like to play at his table because his table is always set to beast mode maximal setting. Sometimes I flat bet to see what is going on. The guy places his bet based on TC precisely without any cover. And his play is almost based on index. If this was in the past, the casino had already banned him from playing BJ. Yet the casino still let him play AND TAKE HIS MONEY ALMOST EVERY TIME. This is the strongest evidence that ASM clump the cards. Not every shoe but frequently enough to let casinos have the edge over AP and perfect Basic Strategy players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Since the thread is always yellow, I can speak more freely.
    No you can't. STOP IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    No you can't. STOP IT!
    I said speak more freely, not speak freely. There is a difference.

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    Norm - yellow time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22playing21 View Post
    Do you guys play ASM pitch games?
    Our AP crew prefers CSM's over ASM's over hand shuffle.

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    You have no evidence of anything. Just fictitious stories.

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    If all of these "clumping" and "beast mode" stories were true, this would be a much bigger cheating scandal than Postle.

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    Under the right conditions I love CSMs'. But many of you are to paranoid about clumping and to stupid to see an advantage
    Last edited by Solo player; 10-30-2019 at 05:56 PM.
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