11 v A Verite D

[Bigdaddy]

CV includes the indices that are in the books as those are what people are used to. As Tarzan says, 11vA s17vH17 is very close, so most books don't differentiate.

This surprises me a bit. Maybe the indexes are close for the 6-deck game, but for DD games using HO2 they are not close. The RA index for H17 is -2 and S17 is +1.

[DSchles]

This surprises me a bit. Maybe the indexes are close for the 6-deck game, but for DD games using HO2 they are not close. The RA index for H17 is -2 and S17 is +1.

I agree. In 6-deck, H17, double is 1-1.5% better than hitting, depending on the two-card holding. For S17, it is 2-2.5% better to hit. For two-deck, as you say, H17 basic strategy is to double. It can be up to 5% better than hitting. For S17, depending on the holding, doubling isn't even the right play.

The indices can't possibly be the same for ANY game. The discrepancies are simply too large in the expectations.

Don