Can't win at the casino. Can't win on CVBJ.

**BigJer** · 03-02-2015, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by RollingStoned

How many hours have you clocked on CVBJ (for the -850k)?

Lol. Maybe Five.

**Nikky_Flash** · 03-02-2015, 05:03 PM

I just remember when I bought c.o.b , he mentions raising his bets a little when the rc hits nine early in a shoe , one deck in.... that works if the game is only house ad of -.3 , but if i don't find a game with Ls , s 17 , resplit aces , das , DOA , I'd be raising into negative EV ....so I had to tweak it - actually I play totally different systems now ... but anyways ... its be nice to see your game plan apart from practcing with 2 hands at $ 25000 , ... like rules , count system , Tc that you use to raise , etc ..

**BigJer** · 03-02-2015, 05:09 PM

The fact is what is going on is negative variance.

**Nikky_Flash** · 03-02-2015, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by BigJer

The fact is what is going on is negative variance.

OK , hope it gets better for ya man

RS · 03-03-2015, 03:54 AM

850K, and max bet is 2x25K. So really, you're down what, 17 max bets (or 34)? In 5 hours of play?

If you have CVCX, run a sim for your game/ramp and make it show you the standard deviation numbers for 5 hours of play (or however many rounds you've played).

I think you might be surprised in how "normal" your current results are. Remember, you're playing with a razor thin edge.

**Three** · 03-03-2015, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by RollingStoned

I think you might be surprised in how "normal" your current results are. Remember, you're playing with a razor thin edge.

Yeah, playing at such ridiculous bets have the results incomprehensible relative to your actual play. I don't understand why you aren't using your ramp and the rules you face for practice.

**BigJer** · 03-03-2015, 07:22 AM

BTW my betting ramp is RC<= 0 then 1 X $100. RC >0 then 1 X $500. TC>=1 then 1 X $1000. TC>=2 then 2 X $10,000. TC >= 3 then 2 X $15,000. TC >= 3 then 2 X $15,000. etc ........ TC>= 5 then 2 X $25,000.

**BigJer** · 03-03-2015, 07:23 AM

BTW I am making a come back on CVBJ.

**NotEnoughHeat** · 03-03-2015, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by BigJer

BTW my betting ramp is RC<= 0 then 1 X $100. RC >0 then 1 X $500. TC>=2 then 2 X $10,000. TC >= 3 then 2 X $15,000. TC >= 3 then 2 X $15,000. etc ........ TC>= 5 then 2 X $25,000.

I presume this is the CVBJ ramp and not your live casino ramp. lol I'd want to know where that was if you could bet at that level going 1-250*2 (I'm wondering whether or not you accidentally put extra zeros). I'm not sure how many BJ tables I've seen with a min-max larger than 1-20.

I found the RC>0 ramp a bit odd but when I realized there was one more zero than I thought there was in all the following steps, I figured it probably doesn't make much of a difference. I suppose it helps curb some of the insane heat the CVBJ pit bosses are giving you!

**BigJer** · 03-03-2015, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat

I presume this is the CVBJ ramp and not your live casino ramp. lol I'd want to know where that was if you could bet at that level going 1-250*2 (I'm wondering whether or not you accidentally put extra zeros). I'm not sure how many BJ tables I've seen with a min-max large than 1-20.

I found the RC>0 ramp a bit odd but when I realized there was one more zero than I thought there was in all the following steps, I figured it probably doesn't make much of a difference. I suppose it helps curb some of the insane heat the CVBJ pit bosses are giving you!

Yes that is my CVBJ ramp. Don't I wish it was my live ramp.

**Aslan** · 03-03-2015, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by moses

The key to profit is a matter of the large bets working and the minimum bets surfing.

Isn't that sort of like saying, "The secret to the stock market is buying low and selling high?"

The first key to making profits at blackjack is finding good games. By good games I mean rules, penetration and surveillance. You will seldom ever find all three huddled nicely together. One's playing style depends on the mix of these three factors and the availability of similar games in the vicinity IMO.

**NotEnoughHeat** · 03-03-2015, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by moses

But, of course, that isn't remotely realistic, so I have to sit through all those hands and listen/deal with all the noise to get to that 60%-40% point...and hope I don't miss it.

Hmm, does the win rate ever get close to 60% (even when excluding ties)? I've heard it said a few times on this forum that the count doesn't significantly change the win rate and that most of the gain in edge come from naturals, doubles and splits. The particular 6D game on one of the Wizards of Odds appendices wins 46% of the time (excluding ties). Increasing 14% seems a bit more than I would think but I haven't heavily looked heavily into the resources that analyze the win rate's relation to the count. I'd appreciate links if possible. I think I may have stumbled upon stuff covering this, maybe not, but I can't for the life of me find such material when I want to.