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    Site for next Moo Camp?

    Since the last one was such a rousing success (at least, no one told me it sucked and I shouldn't quit my day job) I'm trying to plan another Moo Camp. If you would attend a Moo Camp, where would you consider attending? More than one response allowed.
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    I was hoping to see a report here from the first one. Like number of attendees, their satisfaction level, etc. Not all details are expected, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffdiver View Post
    I was hoping to see a report here from the first one. Like number of attendees, their satisfaction level, etc. Not all details are expected, of course.
    I'll leave it up to any attendees to decide if they want to report. I got feedback from several people. I don't like to toot my own horn, so I'll only share the criticisms: I tried to do a lot of drills, and I think that was boring/corny for a lot of people. My hope was to really nail down the skills, but the response was mostly "ok, I get it, let's go play." So, next time, I'll probably focus more on just explaining the moves, and leave it at that.

    I also did too much foundational stuff, which was not that helpful to most of the attendees. My goal was to lay set up the later content and have the sessions be iterative, but I think the first session or two were probably too foundational, and only had one or two useful takeaways for a couple hours of time. I don't think they were low content (anyone who has been to a conference knows a "low content" presentation), but rather, the content was already covered in basic literature. Next time, I'll focus more on getting straight to the "secrets of the temple" if I can (although some of these moves REQUIRE a lot of foundation, because they're dangerous if you do it wrong).

    If any attendees want to discuss, I'll leave it up to them to share (just don't post the power points ). I'm not going to share # of attendees, for obvious reasons, and I ask others to refrain as well.
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    I attended the first "boot camp." Cash Cow's analysis of the two-day session is very accurate, in my opinion. The material presented on the first evening was really too elementary. However, there was a delicious tidbit that he dropped that I have been using ever since. It has improved my game.

    Over-all, I think my "hard skills" are reasonably well-developed. However, there was also a discussion of various "soft skills" that I found extremely beneficial.

    Ultimately, when one attends a seminar/camp of this sort, you have to ask yourself, "Did something change? Do I play differently, in some way, than I did before attending the camp?" If the answer is "no," then I think you have to ask yourself if it was worthwhile. However, in my case, the answer is "yes." I do some things differently as a result of this camp.

    The visuals were good, and the students who wanted an electronic version of the visuals were provided with one.

    Over-all, definitely a "thumbs up."

    Terry

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    I also did too much foundational stuff, which was not that helpful to most of the attendees. My goal was to lay set up the later content and have the sessions be iterative, but I think the first session or two were probably too foundational, and only had one or two useful takeaways for a couple hours of time. I don't think they were low content (anyone who has been to a conference knows a "low content" presentation), but rather, the content was already covered in basic literature. Next time, I'll focus more on getting straight to the "secrets of the temple" if I can (although some of these moves REQUIRE a lot of foundation, because they're dangerous if you do it wrong).
    Moo, A suggestion to help fit what everyone needs. Have day one or some other portion of the early schedule be fundamentals that more experienced players may choose to skip but are valuable to the less experienced attendees. Then have the more advanced stuf in the later part of the camp that is known to those that would choose to skip stuff that is too basic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Moo, A suggestion to help fit what everyone needs. Have day one or some other portion of the early schedule be fundamentals that more experienced players may choose to skip but are valuable to the less experienced attendees. Then have the more advanced stuf in the later part of the camp that is known to those that would choose to skip stuff that is too basic.
    This is a good idea, thank you.

    I was kicking around different structures, and it seems like a weekend is a lot easier for most people. But I could probably squeeze a Friday-day session on basics, and then hit the top-secret stuff over the rest of the time.

    I also kicked around the idea of actually doing like a 4-day or even week-long "convention" where we could bring in lots of different people: i.e. Nersesian/Rose for legal stuff, Fox/Chien for tax and accounting stuff, Dancer/Scott for VP, Schlesinger on BJ, MIT/Holy Rollers guys on teams, a poker expert, etc. (I have not contacted any of these people and have no business association with any of them. I'm only mentioning them as examples of experts in their fields, not as people who endorse me in any way). Maybe do some breakout sessions, and have a range of subjects being discussed.

    My concern was that it would be insanely hard to insure spies/trolls didn't get in. I even seriously considered having everyone wear disguises like the Blackjack Ball. Maybe have it by Skype? This would make it logistically easy for speakers to speak remotely, but if we didn't all meet up we would lose the networking aspect, which I think is half the fun. Maybe we could do a few viewing sites for the speakers, and you could meet up with a few people in your area? Obviously, I'm just brainstorming, and there are a ton of factors to consider.
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    East Coast, New York

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    lol this wouldn't be convenient for everyone else, but it would definitely make me consider going if it was in the north, middle part of the country, like MN (I don't live in MN).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    lol this wouldn't be convenient for everyone else, but it would definitely make me consider going if it was in the north, middle part of the country, like MN (I don't live in MN).
    Do you want to call that Midwest?
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    East coast ny/nj/pa

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    Well, if it was now, I'd say on the beach in St. Martin. 82 degrees today.
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    Well, if it was now, I'd say on the beach in St. Martin. 82 degrees today.
    Maybe I should have put an option for the Caribbean. Puerto Rico has some decent games...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    Maybe I should have put an option for the Caribbean. Puerto Rico has some decent games...
    +1 for Puerto Rico

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