Checks Play, calling it in

[counter19]

So I have played at a casino recently where I was spreading 1-10. My big bet is $100 and I get the "checks play" thing. When they say this, the pit boss goes to the phone, pushes a button, and quickly tells whoever is on the other line my spot at the table and my bet. This tells me that they routinely let surveillance know when someone is betting $100.

Me no like this.

I left the table after I showed my big bet twice in a row. What would you do in this circumstance? I was thinking about either pulling my bet down to $90 or always leaving after my big bet. Note: I play rated.
This is DD by the way (though they do this too on 6 deck). 75% pen, DOA, DAS, NRSA, late surrender.
I haven't had a problem yet but have been kicking their butts for a while now. I have been playing there for over a year, but I spotted the pit boss as he just finished writing (or perhaps reading) some notes about me on their screen (you can see the screen from outside). I could be wrong on the notes though. There may be notes for everybody for all I know and maybe they don't have anything to do with play.

Regardless, I was thinking of not playing there for a while. It's hard not to though, I can't find rules and penetration better than this anywhere. Even on their 6D they cut off only 3/4 of a deck!

[BlackHead]

Sounds like a sweatshop. I would avoid showing any patterns in your strategy. Try back counting and just leave after 2 or 3 max bet cycles. Just leave after receiving heat altogether without cashing out and forget about that shift for a while if heat was real.

Spreading from 1-10 on a double deck is pretty brash for the place your playing. Also, are you saying they have surrender in there DD?


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[Joss]

If a $100 bet gets way more heat than a $90 bet it sounds like you should make more $90 bets. I don't think this qualifies as a sweat shop if they have been letting you win for a year using a 1:10 spread on a good DD game. It sounds like you have a good thing going, no need to make things harder on yourself by crossing arbitrary thresholds for little reason.

[Dog Hand]

If a $100 bet gets way more heat than a $90 bet it sounds like you should make more $90 bets.<snip>

Spreading $10-$90 is precisely what I used to do when I was first building my bankroll.

Oh... did I mention that was on a positive-off-the-top single-deck game?

Dog Hand

P.S. Shortly after they kicked me out, they removed the game... I'm glad I didn't try to "milk" it!

[counter19]

If a $100 bet gets way more heat than a $90 bet it sounds like you should make more $90 bets. I don't think this qualifies as a sweat shop if they have been letting you win for a year using a 1:10 spread on a good DD game. It sounds like you have a good thing going, no need to make things harder on yourself by crossing arbitrary thresholds for little reason.

I have only recently raised my max bet to $100. It used to go only to $80. This is why I only just now discovered that they call it in. I could always make $80 bets with no problem, but gosh darn it, my bankroll has increased so my betting has as well.

[Three]

This tells me that they routinely let surveillance know when someone is betting black.

I hope you mean betting $100 not betting black. You shouldn't bet black when you bet $100. Every casino tracks black chips. I would bet less than $100. 1-10 spread will often get attention and may not be tolerated at most DD games.

Regardless, I was thinking of not playing there for a while. It's hard not to though, I can't find rules and penetration better than this anywhere. Even on their 6D they cut off only 3/4 of a deck!

If their 4D game is that good and they are busy hawking their great DD game I would play the shoe game. If you keep attacking the DD game you won't be able to play either game. It won't be hard not to play there after that. You canbet they already hav a pretty good idea about what you are doing.

[counter19]

I hope you mean betting $100 not betting black. You shouldn't bet black when you bet $100. Every casino tracks black chips. I would bet less than $100. 1-10 spread will often get attention and may not be tolerated at most DD games.

If their 4D game is that good and they are busy hawking their great DD game I would play the shoe game. If you keep attacking the DD game you won't be able to play either game. It won't be hard not to play there after that. You canbet they already hav a pretty good idea about what you are doing.

Grrrrrr…….I meant to say betting $100, not betting black. I never bet black. Sorry for the confusion.

With regards to 6D, I think they still call in a $100 bet, but going to 2 hands eliminates that problem. Incidentally, the 2D allows MSE and you can even bet 2 spots anytime in the game, even after the first hand has been dealt. I don't do either one of these things though because that to me says that you are just asking for trouble. I might as well pull down my pants and moon them if I did that.

[Aslan]

So I have played at a casino recently where I was spreading 1-10. My big bet is $100 and I get the "checks play" thing. When they say this, the pit boss goes to the phone, pushes a button, and quickly tells whoever is on the other line my spot at the table and my bet. This tells me that they routinely let surveillance know when someone is betting black.

Me no like this.

I left the table after I showed my big bet twice in a row. What would you do in this circumstance? I was thinking about either pulling my bet down to $90 or always leaving after my big bet. Note: I play rated.
This is DD by the way (though they do this too on 6 deck). 75% pen, DOA, DAS, NRSA, late surrender.
I haven't had a problem yet but have been kicking their butts for a while now. I have been playing there for over a year, but I spotted the pit boss as he just finished writing (or perhaps reading) some notes about me on their screen (you can see the screen from outside). I could be wrong on the notes though. There may be notes for everybody for all I know and maybe they don't have anything to do with play.

Regardless, I was thinking of not playing there for a while. It's hard not to though, I can't find rules and penetration better than this anywhere. Even on their 6D they cut off only 3/4 of a deck!

I doubt it's the cheques play that gets the call upstairs-- it almost assuredly is the 1 to 10 spread. Where in the world do they have a DD game with late surrender? I'd like to play that game.

[Three]

I doubt it's the cheques play that gets the call upstairs-- it almost assuredly is the 1 to 10 spread. Where in the world do they have a DD game with late surrender? I'd like to play that game.

Check your copy of CBJN.

[Aslan]

Check your copy of CBJN.

I didn't realize they had any such game, since where I play, Vegas and East Coast, they do not, other than BJGenius's infamous spot. Are they sweat boxes? It would be an 800 mile round trip for me for possibly nothing.

[counter19]

I doubt it's the cheques play that gets the call upstairs-- it almost assuredly is the 1 to 10 spread. Where in the world do they have a DD game with late surrender? I'd like to play that game.

No. They only make a call when $100 comes out. It happens often and appears to be quite routine for them, like something they just have to do. They don't appear all worried or glare at you. They just appear to do it like every other job responsibility that they have.
I have watched them enough to know this. Their 2D did not even used to be as flexible as it is now. They have actually loosened the rules.

[Aslan]

No. They only make a call when $100 comes out. It happens often and appears to be quite routine for them, like something they just have to do. They don't appear all worried or glare at you. They just appear to do it like every other job responsibility that they have.
I have watched them enough to know this. Their 2D did not even used to be as flexible as it is now. They have actually loosened the rules.

What I am trying to say is that if you went to the same table and flat bet $100 you would still get "cheques play" but you would not necessarily get a call to the EITS, especially after they established that you were a $100 min bettor.

[moo321]

Don't bet $100. Or bet $100 and survive the skills check.