Count doesn't matter

[grapedrink]

update:
2 visits. Got fucking raped. 1st visit went down $3000. Started out fine, was up around $400 but doubled down with a bet of $250 on an 11 vs. a 7 with a tc at +6 near the end of the deck Of course I ended up with a 4 or something. The shit head next to me had a 13 or 14 and didn't hit because he thought the next card would be a face because there were so many little cards that came up. The next guy doubles his 10 gets a 5. Dealer flips over his card and by some miracle it's not a 17. 7 and 2. Next card is a 10. Of course. Next 2 dealt cards would have busted the dealer. Instead I end up with a 14 instead of 20, bust, and the dealer gets 2 more 20's in a row while I bust on my max bets. -$1500 that day.

Day 2:
Immediate rape fest. I lose something like 9 in a row including like 2 doubles, and a split with a double with high counts. -$1200 in like 4 minutes. I move to another table. Started off choppy. 3rd base stays on a 4 card 16 vs. a 7. I have a 20 with a 4 bet on the table ($100 table) with a tc at +4 or +5. Dealer flips over card and it's a 9 to go with his 7. Sweet. Next card is a 5. Fuck!!! After that what was a kind of bad table became possessed by the devil. Another guy comes in. We all lose nearly every hand. Bust galore for the players, dealer can't get anything below a 20 no matter what. The guy who stayed vs a 7 loses all his money and leaves. Table still terrible. The new guy loses all his money and leaves. I play heads up for a shoe. Still terrible. 2 other guys come in. Still bad, but at least I'm getting a few decent starting hands. Tc is like +11 with 3 aces still left. I've lost 2 $600 bets in a row and have less than a min bet left. I buy in for another $2000. I act like I'm doing a negative progression and bet $1500. First card I get is a 5. Fuck. Next card I get is a 6. Dealer shows a 6. Fuck yeah. 1 face card between the 3 of us and the dealer. I pull out another thousand, so I can double. I ask face down. Other players can't hit. Dealers flips over and it's a 3 to go with his 6. UN Fucking believable. Next card is a 2. I pray for at least a push. Next card is an ace. We're all yelling for a face now. Next card is another ace. We're screaming for a face. I remember one of the guys had a $500 bet. Next card... 8 to complete his 21. UN Fucking real. Dealer flips over my 11 double down card. It's an ace. complete disbelief. -$6200 in about 25 minutes. I punch the table a few times, scream at the dealer, and leave. Unreal.

[hitthat16]

You sure this is the right game for you?

[grapedrink]

You sure this is the right game for you?

It better be. I dropped out of college, got dumped, and quit my internship to do this.

[Aslan]

It better be. I dropped out of college, got dumped, and quit my internship to do this.

Quit playing immediately! You are a born loser.

I'm being funny, but I do think you should reexamine your priorities, if this is not a put on.

[stopgambling]

This must be a joke! It can 't be anything else! Funny as xxxx to read though

[21gunsalute]

Update. I've played about 70 hours over the last week at a couple different casinos. Nice results overall weird ending that I can't decipher though. It ended really oddly, potentially backed off, but I'm not sure.

So I've decided to refine my game a little more after reading many helpful posts. I'm still using ho2 count for about 75% of my decisions, and surrendering my 16s more often. I'm still not ramping bets when the shoes are obviously awful and the count is high (maybe around 10-15% of the time), and I'm betting more units on negative count shoes when it's going good.

Out of I think 6 different visits: I lost a lot on one day (-$5000. My god, super depressing), close to even on another (i think it went from +500 to -$1000 to +2000 to -$1500 to -$300 over the course of maybe 3 hours), and +$19,000 on the other 3 or 4 sessions. My brain is kind of a blur thinking about it.

Anyway, on to the possible back off on my last visit. So I was playing for a long time, total played was around 30 hours straight on the $25 tables. Somewhere around the 15th hour I had to take a dump because the food I ordered contained some peppers that I requested be taken out, but of course they didn't. I have a sensitive stomach. Anyway, I was in the middle of a great stretch at the table, dealers were just busting everything for an hour or so. I held it as long as I could, and ran as fast as I could to the bathroom, but halfway there it was already late. So saving the details, my underpants got a bit stained to say the least. Anyway, I cleaned up as best I could, and then went back to the tables. I was up at this point close to $4000 because that table was just awesome, and I was pressing. I lost about $500 over the course of the next 6 hours or so. And then around the 26th hour or so this ***** of a woman and her friend sit down next to me, and within maybe 5 minutes starts complaining about some smell. I hope she's not talking about me, but I say to the effect that there's a lot of smokers in the casino. Table kind of sucks and I move to another table. A few hours later, I'm going through a pretty good run with another guy at the table. I recover the amount I gave back and add an additional $1000 when the same woman walks over to play at the table and says the bottom of my pants are wet and gives me a scrunched face. I'm not sure why she made a point to say that out loud, but she then calls over the pit boss to complain about me right in front of me saying that I smell and soiled myself. Didn't say two words to this bat and she's ruining my mood and the good vibes at the table. Pretty much the rudest person I've ever experienced at a casino. Anyway I play for another 10 minutes winning another $200 before getting a tap on the shoulder. Standing there are the pit boss's bosses. I panic in my head. I don't recall making too many big bets under positive counts in the last few hours, and then they say that the casino has received a number of complaints about my hygiene, and they ask me to color up my chips and leave for the day. I just say ok and then leave.

I'm not sure what to make of this as this could be a back off due to my play, or it could be something else. I'm taking a break from there for now as I don't want to be banned from there.

Only using the count for 75% of your decisions: ploppy behavior

Not ramping bets when the count is high: ploppy behavior

Betting big when the count is low: ploppy behavior (unless you have additional information such as STing, but I'm pretty certain that is not the case here. It doesn't matter if a shoe is running hot or cold, past performance has no bearing on the next hand!)

Playing for 30 hours straight: ploppy behavior

Shitting your pants: The definition of ploppy behavior!

I'm calling BS. There's no way anyone could be this dense!

[Three]

I'm calling BS. There's no way anyone could be this dense!

That is what was in his pants.

[grapedrink]

Quit playing immediately! You are a born loser.

I'm being funny, but I do think you should reexamine your priorities, if this is not a put on.

I thought about quitting last year, but don't really have anything else I can do.

[grapedrink]

Only using the count for 75% of your decisions: ploppy behavior

Not ramping bets when the count is high: ploppy behavior

Betting big when the count is low: ploppy behavior (unless you have additional information such as STing, but I'm pretty certain that is not the case here. It doesn't matter if a shoe is running hot or cold, past performance has no bearing on the next hand!)

Playing for 30 hours straight: ploppy behavior

Shitting your pants: The definition of ploppy behavior!

I'm calling BS. There's no way anyone could be this dense!

I don't know what ST ing is. Most of the time I'd agree that previous hand doesn't have bearing on next hand, but there is definitely a small percentage where the shoe is just really great for the dealer no matter what, and shoes where it's just great for the player no matter what. Keep in mind these are double deck does that I'm talking about.

Also, betting big on low counts on said shoes has helped me go up this year. In fact, two of my major losses where when the TC were astronomically high.

30 hours I agree is way too much. However, I'm pretty young with lots of stamina, so a lot of the time I don't feel tired. You're probably old, so you couldn't last very long.

[BigJer]

I don't know what ST ing is. Most of the time I'd agree that previous hand doesn't have bearing on next hand, but there is definitely a small percentage where the shoe is just really great for the dealer no matter what, and shoes where it's just great for the player no matter what. Keep in mind these are double deck does that I'm talking about.

Also, betting big on low counts on said shoes has helped me go up this year. In fact, two of my major losses where when the TC were astronomically high.

30 hours I agree is way too much. However, I'm pretty young with lots of stamina, so a lot of the time I don't feel tired. You're probably old, so you couldn't last very long.

I just turned 60 and can still put in 12 hr days at BJ.

[Three]

but there is definitely a small percentage where the shoe is just really great for the dealer no matter what, and shoes where it's just great for the player no matter what. Keep in mind these are double deck does that I'm talking about.

there is a name for this phenomenon. It is called coincidence.

Also, betting big on low counts on said shoes has helped me go up this year.

This is called luck.

In fact, two of my major losses where when the TC were astronomically high.

HMM. Your biggest losses are when you are making your biggest bets. Why am I not surprised. Just because you make big bets at the right time doesn't mean you will win them. In fact you are more likely to lose the next bet in these situations. Your advantage comes from the higher likihood of getting a BJ that pays 3:2 and the better results from offensive splits and doubles and more opportunities to make splits and doubles due to index plays. Guess what. If you don't get any BJ's and you lose those splits and doubles you are most likely going to lose big. That is all part of the long run that when you make the right bets and plays has you ahead in the long run. Counting isn't a magic thing that means when you bet big you will automatically win.

30 hours I agree is way too much. However, I'm pretty young with lots of stamina, so a lot of the time I don't feel tired. You're probably old, so you couldn't last very long.

Every person has natural biorhythms where they perform at peak and perform poorly at the same part of each day. There are times in the casino when you can make a lot of money in a short time due to uncrowded conditions at your table and getting great pen. Obviously you should play only when conditions are best and try to play when you are at peak and avoid playing when your brain takes a siesta for an hour or two every day. If you just play because you are there and think counting always produces the same results regardless of conditions you are destined to fail. If you do everything to make sure you have the biggest advantage when you play and avoid playing any poor conditions you have vastly improved the chances of your success.

[Aslan]

I thought about quitting last year, but don't really have anything else I can do.

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190 Tafts Avenue
Winthrop, MA 02152

[Aslan]

I just turned 60 and can still put in 12 hr days at BJ.

Getting weak in your old age, eh?