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    difficult indeed.The etis is on you ,the pit is on to you and the dealer is on to you at some /many stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwilliam View Post
    To clarify-I USED 1 system for several rounds-then used another system 4 several rounds, and then the last one for several rounds..AND ALL had dismal results..
    You need to read more and understand more. You hit sure profits in the long run, meaning thousands and tens of thousands of rounds. Discarding or changing systems because you have bad results over "several rounds" is completely bonkers. You'll need a hell of a lot more discipline and a hell of a lot more time at the tables using the same system and making no mistakes before you even begin to get an idea of where you stand. This isn't a lottery where you win big within a few rounds or quit. It's a long, arduous grind over hundreds of hours playing a tiny edge to even be assured of a reasonable expectation of a profit.

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    Life is one long totally random session. How you choose to break it up is non-random. If you always played exactly 5 shoes your session results would be much more random but we are human and tend to quit when ahead or by some other criteria which shapes our session results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwilliam View Post
    To answer your question..Yes I am a counter, and I was playing on a 6 deck shoe DAS rules..I don't increase by bet until I win or tie..I tried halves, Zen, and the David Heath system on them..
    Something odd about this post. If you have the ability to actually play Halves, Zen and Heath, all proficiently, yet only increase your bet after a win or tie, something is wrong with this picture. Maybe it's just me
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    Quote Originally Posted by metronome View Post
    Something odd about this post. If you have the ability to actually plat Halves, Zen and Heath, all proficiently, yet only increase your bet after a win or tie, something is wrong with this picture. Maybe it's just me
    I assume he's doing that for cover.

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    Looks more like less than a full understanding of the game to me. He should probably do a full evaluation of his approach. Review is a good thing for all of us, I think.

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    so , if the count suddenly goes to Tc 5 , and you haven't won a hand , you just table min bet still ? I'm sure that's part of it ...

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    Welcome to the wonderful world of BJ. Your results are just normal fluctuations of the game. Don't waste your time and brain power by worrying about streaks in results of individual games or sessions, meaningless information. It is all one long game. If you worry about losing too many sessions in a row you may pay more attention to having a wining session and as a result, over bet you bankroll to get even, increase your ramp above what is optimal to get even. There is no harm in booking a loss at a casino. They like losers, it is OK to be one occasionally.

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    The books that advise not raising your bet unless you win and not lowering it unless you lose are old and written when BJ had a much lower house edge. You had a lot of EV that could be sacrificed for longevity and still have a profitable game. Today you must be much more selective about sacrificing EV for longevity. There just isn't near as much EV to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottwilliam View Post
    I've been playing the game for around 4yrs..I have practiced and practiced ALOT..I usually win 9, 10, 11 sessions in a row and then have a couple of losing ones..My last session was very..very depressing..I mean, I lost 11 in a row on three separate tables, took breaks-used different systems, AND still got hammered..This was the worst losing session ever..Usually my losing sessions are like losing 6 or 5 in a row..tie then win 2 in a row..then lose again..But today..it was just lose..lose..and lose..!I could not detect any second dealing.. Any opinions-recommendations?
    I've had similar losing streaks happen to me and it makes me reflect superstitiously on anything wrong I may have done to deserve such bad karma, but my rational side ends up prevailing and I realize that given enough time, you're going to end up getting a horrible streak no matter what.

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