Tipping Dealers

[BJGenius007]

You mean you left "immediately" after the ten minutes of the dealer being very happy whenever you busted your hands?

I need to play for 10 minutes to know he is unhappy.

[22playing21]

Dealers get enough tokes from the plops. Played the other day with a man who had no idea what he was doing or how to play, he won around $40 before his wife came to get him and he threw the dealer a $5 tip. I never tip because it just goes to a tip pool at the stores i play and the majority of the dealers are unpleasant.

[Aslan]

Dealers get enough tokes from the plops. Played the other day with a man who had no idea what he was doing or how to play, he won around $40 before his wife came to get him and he threw the dealer a $5 tip. I never tip because it just goes to a tip pool at the stores i play and the majority of the dealers are unpleasant.

I wish casinos had forms for players to rate dealers after each session, like Uber Cab does, with 1 to 5 stars. When employees falls to a certain level, they are required to go through retraining, and if bad ratings continue, they are terminated.

[Bodarc]

I know which one's I'd give the 5 stars to!

[Three]

Dealers that can speed up the game are earning tips. I make sure dealers that are helpful know what I want and tip them small and often for assisting me. Quite often plops are made to make quick decisions or move to another table. This is not collusion. The casino's goal and my goal are usually the same, getting more hands in per hour don't you think they are earning tips? Lots of dealers I have trained deal much faster and help plops decide faster if I am not heads up. I also encourage stiffs to tip. They see me winning and I tell them they must tip the dealer to win. I help the pit and the dealer manage obnoxious players and smokers. The pit staff want to see me back soon. I am sure most know what I am doing and know I will stay within tolerances for the casino so they never catch sh*t for leaving me alone. People can be helpful or hurt you. How you deal with them can determine this.

It always amazes me the length a good tipping AP in other parts of their life will go to in order to justify not tipping dealers. Dealers have a huge impact on your EV. Most around here feel they work for the tipping players not the casino. If you tip these dealers will try to give you what you want. You would be amazed how fast a game can move if the dealer wants it to versus the speed if the dealer doesn't want to help move the game along. Tipping dealers that are helpful only makes good business sense. I have had plops comment on the change in game speed after I take a seat. Most like it but the ones that try to slow a game down (these players do exist and are actually quite common) often get up and find a slower table.

You could look at it as you lost $2K to tipping helpful dealers last year or that you you got $20K extra EV for the cost of $2K last year. Don't tip dealers that aren't helpful is the answer. Why pass up so much return on the investment to getting dealers motivated to giving you what you want? Table management is a huge part of the AP skill set. If you can get the same without tipping you are a master and probably shouldn't tip. But tipping is a great tool for getting dealers to help you get what you want. Helpful dealers see you as their employer not the casino.

[Aslan]

Dealers that can speed up the game are earning tips. I make sure dealers that are helpful know what I want and tip them small and often for assisting me. Quite often plops are made to make quick decisions or move to another table. This is not collusion. The casino's goal and my goal are usually the same, getting more hands in per hour don't you think they are earning tips?

Earning tips? You said it yourself-- the dealers who get in more hands per hour are only doing what they have been trained to do. Dealers are periodically rated based on hands per hour. It can mean longevity for them if they produce, i.e., it's in "their" best interest to deal faster, and I do not exactly call that "earning tips."

If they do do what you want them to do even though it is what they are supposed to be doing all along, I guess in a way you can say that your tips "encourage" them to do what they were supposed to do anyway (if you tip before the fact), but I wouldn't call that "earning tips," it's more like bribing them to follow company policy.

[moo321]

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[Aslan]

Definition of TIP
: a gift or a sum of money tendered for a service performed or anticipated : gratuity

gra·tu·ity noun \gr?-?tü-?-t?, -?tyü-\

: an amount of money given to a person (such as a waiter or waitress) who has performed a service

No need to tip at Walmart. No need, therefore, to tip at casino. The practice in casinos is rooted in superstition about enhancing one's luck or attributing one's luck to a particular dealer.

[Three]

Earning tips? You said it yourself-- the dealers who get in more hands per hour are only doing what they have been trained to do. Dealers are periodically rated based on hands per hour. It can mean longevity for them if they produce, i.e., it's in "their" best interest to deal faster, and I do not exactly call that "earning tips."

If they do do what you want them to do even though it is what they are supposed to be doing all along, I guess in a way you can say that your tips "encourage" them to do what they were supposed to do anyway (if you tip before the fact), but I wouldn't call that "earning tips," it's more like bribing them to follow company policy.

Lately dealers have been being trained at entertaining customers. That really slows the game down.

[Three]

Definition of TIP

It is actually not TIP but TIPS. It is an acronym for To Insure Prompt Service. It is what is given to get better service from a server not a something automatically given to one performing a service. Someone performing a service will tend to give people that leave them a TIPS quick service before others waiting for the same service that don't leave a TIPS. Over the years the S in the acronym has been made the plural. You should keep that in mind when considering whether or not to or how much to tip someone.

[Aslan]

Lately dealers have been being trained at entertaining customers. That really slows the game down.

I've run into entertaining dealers, but never one trained for that purpose, so that is new. I have recently had a dealer in an off strip casino in Vegas tell me that she is dealing fast because they rate dealers there on how many hands they deal an hour.

[Aslan]

It is actually not TIP but TIPS. It is an acronym for To Insure Prompt Service. It is what is given to get better service from a server not a something automatically given to one performing a service. Someone performing a service will tend to give people that leave them a TIPS quick service before others waiting for the same service that don't leave a TIPS. Over the years the S in the acronym has been made the plural. You should keep that in mind when considering whether or not to or how much to tip someone.

According to Snopes, that is not the correct etymology of the word. http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.asp

I tip in few places: restaurants, airports, hotels, taxis, shuttles and the omelet guy at the buffet.

The most common person I tip is a waiter/waitress. I tip 20% unless I don't like the service; then, I tip 15%. I consider it part of the bill.

I've given tips for people who help me with loading my car with heavy objects such as furniture and other such random events-- you know them when you see them. It's when someone goes out of their way to make life easier for you.

[paymypush]

Right. If we wanted to insure prompt service we would be tipping everyone in advance and we just don't do that ordinarily.