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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Can't argue your logic here "muffdiver". Although your Pen name (Walk this Way - Aerosmith) seems dubious to someone professing high ethical standards. lol Blackjack is a game of competition. People, athletes change when placed in a competitive or Win/Lose situation. I'm 90% sure a dealer paying for a loss is an offset to them taking from a win. I'm counting cards but not always adding up the sum of cards.
    Moses, please be kind to" Muffdiver", I see nothing at all unethical to his handle, name. Men and Women have strong physical desires for one another, it is natural and can be most beautiful and exciting, and really makes the world go round. I know muffdiver would agree with me in that the top two things most exciting, excluding family, are Hot Women and Great BJ, that is,,,, Black Jack there Bud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Brother O...No offense meant. I enjoy reading Muffdiver posts and consider him to be very asture. As father of two daughter, I gotta admit I wouldn't be comfortable with someone showing up at my front door with the nickname "muffdiver". Hope my comments are taken as "all" in fun. Certainly, no malice intended whatsoever.
    LOL!!!

    I know it was all in fun! I also have 2 daughters, there are some things you just never want to think about!

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    100% agreement, O!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    My apologies sir. I admit I have not read the entire thread. As a former midwesterner myself, I enjoy reading your posts. Just something about that down home part of the country. Midwest humor is one of its own kind. Quite amazed that a subject as simple as "dealer paying mistakes" has grown to 9 pages.
    No apology needed or expected, but thanks.
    I enjoy reading your posts, also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    My apologies sir. I admit I have not read the entire thread. As a former midwesterner myself, I enjoy reading your posts. Just something about that down home part of the country. Midwest humor is one of its own kind. Quite amazed that a subject as simple as "dealer paying mistakes" has grown to 9 pages.
    It's clear that the overall concensus is that Muffdiver is an astute poster. I suppose this makes him a cunning linguist.
    (I've always chuckled at his handle)

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    Quote Originally Posted by freightman View Post
    it's clear that the overall concensus is that muffdiver is an astute poster. I suppose this makes him a cunning linguist.
    (i've always chuckled at his handle)

    roflmao!!!

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    Bless the man who shares a life with a significant other who enjoys......
    oh never mind
    “One man’s remorse is another man’s reminiscence.” Ogden Nash

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    I took two mistakes today despite my gut telling me not to. I didn't pull the chips back or anything, the dealer simply ignored it and went on. I couldn't tell if he was simply distracted (He was always looking down the pit at someone else on another table) or if he just knows me well enough (I do know him pretty well) to where he would intentionally make an error that worked out in my favor when I got the big money out.

    Mistake #1: MyHard 20 vs his Ace. Flips over a 4. Draws Ace, 4 Ace, for a total of 21, he pushes my bet which was at $40 at that moment. Now, 3 aces and two 4's to me is a 21, but there we we were pushing. Ironically, he did take the money of the 18's and 19's on the table, so I don't know if it was me, or he truly believed he had a 20. No big deal. I'll take a false push in my favor, that's a little different than taking mispays.

    Mistake #2: Same guy about half a shoe later. I have hard 17, he has a 6. Flips over an ace, ten, ten, out. Pays the table. I left the bet there for a decent amount of time to the point where he noted it and told me to bet it or pull it. Wasn't sure what was going on. He does strike me as a dealer who would do that for some extra tips, but not often enough to be reliable, but he could have also just been tired and lost focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    I took two mistakes today despite my gut telling me not to. I didn't pull the chips back or anything, the dealer simply ignored it and went on. I couldn't tell if he was simply distracted (He was always looking down the pit at someone else on another table) or if he just knows me well enough (I do know him pretty well) to where he would intentionally make an error that worked out in my favor when I got the big money out.

    Mistake #1: MyHard 20 vs his Ace. Flips over a 4. Draws Ace, 4 Ace, for a total of 21, he pushes my bet which was at $40 at that moment. Now, 3 aces and two 4's to me is a 21, but there we we were pushing. Ironically, he did take the money of the 18's and 19's on the table, so I don't know if it was me, or he truly believed he had a 20. No big deal. I'll take a false push in my favor, that's a little different than taking mispays.

    Mistake #2: Same guy about half a shoe later. I have hard 17, he has a 6. Flips over an ace, ten, ten, out. Pays the table. I left the bet there for a decent amount of time to the point where he noted it and told me to bet it or pull it. Wasn't sure what was going on. He does strike me as a dealer who would do that for some extra tips, but not often enough to be reliable, but he could have also just been tired and lost focus.
    Two responses to this post.

    1. I don't see the difference between taking a false push and taking a mispay.

    2. If you think a dealer is intentionally making errors in your favor, you are treading dangerously close to collusion. Watch it Bubele.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Mistake #1: MyHard 20 vs his Ace. Flips over a 4. Draws Ace, 4 Ace, for a total of 21, he pushes my bet which was at $40 at that moment. Now, 3 aces and two 4's to me is a 21, but there we we were pushing. Ironically, he did take the money of the 18's and 19's on the table, so I don't know if it was me, or he truly believed he had a 20. No big deal. I'll take a false push in my favor, that's a little different than taking mispays.
    I am not sure I understand this one:
    A,4,A,4 for 20 and then draws first bases first card as an A to make 21. You pushed and everyone else lost and first base lost his A as his first card when the dealer took a card when he should have stood. The dealer had 20 not 21. Perhaps the dealer knew he screwed up and was paying it the way it would be paid if the Floor were made aware of his screw up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoofly View Post
    Two responses to this post.

    1. I don't see the difference between taking a false push and taking a mispay.

    2. If you think a dealer is intentionally making errors in your favor, you are treading dangerously close to collusion. Watch it Bubele.
    Collusion would be such a huge, monumental, gigantic leap to conclude in a situation like that lol. My honest take on this is that he was just distracted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    I am not sure I understand this one:
    A,4,A,4 for 20 and then draws first bases first card as an A to make 21. You pushed and everyone else lost and first base lost his A as his first card when the dealer took a card when he should have stood. The dealer had 20 not 21. Perhaps the dealer knew he screwed up and was paying it the way it would be paid if the Floor were made aware of his screw up.
    It may have been A, A, A, 4, 4 now that I think about it. The way I remember "feeling" is that the dealer drew out a 21 on something the tables was hoping would turn hard 17 or bust out, and then pushed me for my 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Cunning Linguist??? Had to look that one up. lol Seems sort of like the correlation between an Opera Director and a Baby for someone with Dyslexia...

    A baby sucks his fingers....
    We can't forget that a county fair has a "cunning array of stunts" and a Broadway chorus has a -------------------------------!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by metronome View Post
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    You just snatched the thought from my mind

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