Designated Driver: Reducing ROR while maintaining EV

[Designated Driver]

> You ask for advice yet you listen to none of it. You
> might as well play any game with your $500 if you are
> set on gambling, because that all you will be doing.

So are you telling me not to play?

I have waited a long time(a very hard task) which has gotten me nothing for over three years.

I have also invested well over $500 in books, software and other learning materials, not to menition the countless hours I have spent practicing to beat this game.

I listen to what is said, but I want to win my money back.

If not, what was the point?

Desi. D.

[Magician]

> I listen to what is said, but I want to win my money
> back.

> If not, what was the point?

You seem to want to win your money back in one trip, which is unrealistic. Have you used your software to determine what your hourly EV and SD is? What is the probability that you will win $500 or more on this trip? What is the probability that you will lose $500?

Example: 6D/S17/DAS/LS/4.5/6, spreading $5-20 for 20h, wong in/out at +2 HiLo. EV = $2.75/h, SD = $37/h, P(win) = 0.62%, P(bust) = 0.08%.

[Sun Runner]

> ... what was the point?

The point for you has become that, after $500 and countless hours over three years, you have finally come to the realization that the true statement .. 'blackjack can be beat by counting cards' .. does not equate to quaranteed immediate gratification.

You are a smart guy. If you read the right books and used the right software properly over the last three years, they would have all have been screaming this message to you. Again, you are a smart guy. So, you either got a hold of a bunch of bad literature, it could happen, or ..

.. more likely, the expecations on your life, on this game, on this trip with grandma's money and uncle's time, have changed; and probably recently.

Playing with scared money generally never works out .. and this $500 in your pocket is beginning to look like a deer in the headlights; more panic stricken every day.

[AutomaticMonkey]

> So are you telling me not to play?

> I have waited a long time(a very hard task) which has
> gotten me nothing for over three years.

> I have also invested well over $500 in books, software
> and other learning materials, not to menition the
> countless hours I have spent practicing to beat this
> game.

> I listen to what is said, but I want to win my money
> back.

> If not, what was the point?

> Desi. D.

The people who post here have combined knowledge greater than in any book you can buy, and they give it away for free. We don't spend our time posting here because we like lying to novice players.

I can blow through $500 in one hand, and have, many times. It's frustrating to not be able to play when you know how to play, but it is even more frustrating to undertake the expense and planning for a BJ trip and have it aborted at the very beginning because you ran out of money. You will spend the rest of the trip JO in your filthy motel room because that will be all you have the funds to do. It will be a long and unpleasant few days. You can get yourself into serious trouble of other kinds too, as an inexperienced person in a strange and dangerous town with no money.

If it takes you 3 years to acquire $500 for learning tools and $500 for a bankroll, you are in no position to be playing blackjack in casinos. It's no shame. I'm in no position to play black chip games, some people here are in no position to be playing green chip games, you happen to be in no position to play at all.

However $500 is enough for online play. blackjackforumonline.com has a very good forum for bonus hustling and in a couple of months you can easily turn your $500 into $1000 or $2000. At that point you can start to think about playing the red chip games in downtown LV. But it still won't be very lucrative, especially if you have to travel to get there.

[Trapper]

> However $500 is enough for online play.
> blackjackforumonline.com has a very good forum for
> bonus hustling and in a couple of months you can
> easily turn your $500 into $1000 or $2000.

Online play is a much easier and less stressful way to build a bankroll if you are starting with almost nothing. Expenses aren't an issue. There is good advice on the Blackjackforumonline.com which AM recommended. Norm has a very good intro on his QFIT site. Bonus hustling is a grind and you will be spending as much time record keeping and researching as playing blackjack but there is money to be made and It beats flipping burgers.