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    I do not want to open a separate topic, for this I will ask my questions here for Kakarulo. I'm interested in comparing several systems at different spreads. Let it be 6 decks, pen 4/ 6 , spread 1-20 and 1-50.

    1. AO 2 vs Hi Opt 2.
    2. EBJ 2 vs BRH 0.

    My academic interest is this - at what spread would AO 2 outperform Hi Opt 2 due to its more powerful BC? And due to what BRH 0 outperforms EBJ 2?

    https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...r-6deck.12920/

    See post by BRH

    He put BRH 0 higher than RPC.
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    Here are the answers to your questions: Sims conditions: 6D-S17-DOA-DAS-SPA1-SPL3-NS, 4.5/6, R22 plays, 50 billion rounds each, play-all, heads-up. 1) 1-12 1-16 1-30 1-40 Hi-Opt II/A 25.53 29.74 36.91 39.34 Omega II/A 24.67 28.80 35.84 38.23 Hi-Opt II 21.89 25.68 32.15 34.33 Omega II 21.11 24.82 31.16 33.29 2) 1-12 1-16 1-30 1-40 BRH-0 22.77 26.79 33.71 36.07 EBJ-2 22.53 26.50 33.35 35.69
    The problem with EBJ-2 is that it counts the nine. While this improves BC, on the other hand it decreases IC and PC/PE.
    BRH-0 BC = 0.9799 IC = 0.7852 PC = 0.7774 EBJ-2 BC = 0.9854 IC = 0.7462 PC = 0.7713 About BRH systems BRH-0 is actually Red-7 or Double Red-7 and can be played in both RC and TC modes. In fact if you look at my CAC/71 system you will see that by doing (2*pc+sc) I am using DR7 in TC mode but ONLY for betting. In EBJ-2 the idea was to increase BC by counting nines, but as I said before, this decreases IC and PC/PE. BRH-I is HALVES but not counting nines. The same problem occurs here as with BRH-0 and EBJ-2 and that is why BRH-I outperforms HALVES. BRH-II is ZEN with an side count of aces. Enjoy! Sincerely, Cac

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    It turns out that a properly configured Red Seven system beats RPC? ))

    UBZ beats Halves? See post by BRH-

    “True
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    Brh-1
    UBZ11(unb)
    Wong Halves
    Zen
    Brh-0(unb)
    RPC
    K-O(true)
    Red-7(true)[Brh-0-lite]
    Hi-Lo“
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    Umm, I know Brett and have difficulty with this. Of course, depending on the many variables, many things are possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    It turns out that a properly configured Red Seven system beats RPC? ))

    UBZ beats Halves? See post by BRH-

    “True
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    Brh-1
    UBZ11(unb)
    Wong Halves
    Zen
    Brh-0(unb)
    RPC
    K-O(true)
    Red-7(true)[Brh-0-lite]
    Hi-Lo“
    Sorry, I forgot to add RPC!! I already added it in this edition.

    Under the same conditions that I used in my previous comparisons (6D,S17,DOA,DAS,SPA1,SPL3,NS,4.5/6,R22), I would say NO.

    My order is as follows:

    BRH-I (TC)
    HALVES (TC)
    ZEN (TC)
    UBZ2 (TC)
    RPC (TC)
    DR7/BRH-0 (TC)
    UBZ2 (RC)
    EBJ-2 (TC)
    TKO (TC)
    DR7/BRH-0 (RC)
    KO (RC)
    HI-LO (TC)

    Sincerely,
    Cac
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cacarulo View Post
    Sorry, I forgot to add RPC!! I already added it in this edition.

    Under the same conditions that I used in my previous comparisons (6D,S17,DOA,DAS,SPA1,SPL3,NS,4.5/6,R22), I would say NO.

    My order is as follows:

    BRH-I (TC)
    HALVES (TC)
    ZEN (TC)
    UBZ2 (TC)
    RPC (TC)
    DR7/BRH-0 (TC)
    UBZ2 (RC)
    EBJ-2 (TC)
    TKO (TC)
    DR7/BRH-0 (RC)
    KO (RC)
    HI-LO (TC)

    Sincerely,
    Cac
    RPC added!

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    What software are you using? SBA ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    What software are you using? SBA ?
    I'm using my software.
    Apparently you don't like my ranking very much, do you?
    If you are not convinced you can use CVDATA/CVCX. You simply generate a set of 22 indexes (R22 = Catch-22 but changing 10vT to TTv4) and then run 50 billion rounds for each simulation.
    You can also use SBA.

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    In order for the BC parameter to work well, we must fine-tune the deck divider and calibrate the bets according to our advantage. What deck divider do you use in simulations?
    Last edited by Gramazeka; 05-13-2022 at 03:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    In order for the BC parameter to work well, we must fine-tune the deck divider and calibrate the bets according to our advantage. What deck divider do you use in simulations?
    In these cases I used floored indices with exact decks remaining and the SCOREs were calculated using optimal bettings.

    Cac

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    I understand that you have exact cards as a divisor? Or like a quarter of a deck? Half deck? For example, where HO 2 will bet 10 units, then AO 2 will bet 11 units at the same time, according to the dictated advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    I understand that you have exact cards as a divisor? Or like a quarter of a deck? Half deck? For example, where HO 2 will bet 10 units, then AO 2 will bet 11 units at the same time, according to the dictated advantage.
    Exact FULL decks remaining and Optimal Betting for each system.

    Cac

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    Those are minor. I don't know the post; but Brett was obviously talking about Red7 true-counted and UBZ2 TC, never suggested by George. I assume other tuning to these strategies as opposed to using the original strats as published. That would make the ordering far more sensible. But, they are apparently compared to non-tuned HiLo and RPC.
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    I will have a few more questions for Cacarulo after I return to my hometown Kharkov from Kyiv. Now the military situation there has improved somewhat and the Ukrainian troops were able to break the encirclement around my hometown. I will have access to my computer and some files. Now I'm writing with an iPad. In gratitude for the work done by Cacarulo, I will ask Norm to send my Xls file he has as a gift to Cacarulo. He must unravel the riddles of blackjack laid there Ok Norm ?
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