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Thread: Will the coronavirus be the catalyst to bring back wide scale 3-2?

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    Will the coronavirus be the catalyst to bring back wide scale 3-2?

    I think there is a chance it will. We were at ultra low unemployment at about 3.6%. Projections are now looking at 30%; it may not stay at 30%, but it isn't coming back to 3.6% for a long time. Small businesses getting hit hard. Many will not recover. Entertainment businesses will get crushed with little discretionary income out there. Casinos will need to be proactive. Look for table limits to drop. We all know they SHOULD go to 3/2. I believe the 3/2 to 6/5 switch was mostly since 2011 (correct me if I'm wrong on that) and some much more recent. This is the first economic shock since then. I'm not counting (no pun intended) on the industry all going back to 3/2, but have to wonder if some will do it. They are going to be hurting.

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    I think it will be worse, if anything. The degenerates will need their quick gambling fix once the casinos reopen. The casinos want a quick infusion of cash to re-establish cash flow. The wporse the games, the quicker they fleece the flock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    I think it will be worse, if anything. The degenerates will need their quick gambling fix once the casinos reopen.
    I agree. Also depending on when the stimulus payments go out, you know very well the Degen's are taking that money straight to the casino. They say Mid April for the stimulus payments to the public, past history shows it will most likely be a couple months.

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    Rank the games that degenerates play. Does BJ come first or is it slots, poker, what

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Rank the games that degenerates play. Does BJ come first or is it slots, poker, what
    All of the above, but no question there are more slot players than BJ players.

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    Even the 3/2 bj is back in main stream the casinos will do more like to raise their surveillance to catch AP, they are not stupid to let APs drain their coffers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc12b View Post
    Even the 3/2 bj is back in main stream the casinos will do more like to raise their surveillance to catch AP, they are not stupid to let APs drain their coffers.
    If they catch more APs, it will only be due to less players in the casino.

    People aren't looking at the big picture. Sky high unemployment, a 30% evisceration in IRAs and 401ks to those who sat on their hands (much of the public) and a likely bear market and recession. Those factors don't bode well for an industry that relies heavily on discretionary income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDownSoft21 View Post
    Those factors don't bode well for an industry that relies heavily on discretionary income.
    I beg to disagree. I know more than few gamblers who take their 401k, ssi or rent money to casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc12b View Post
    I beg to disagree. I know more than few gamblers who take their 401k, ssi or rent money to casino.
    When those are up, people are likely to gamble more. They aren't likely to gamble more when they are down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Rank the games that degenerates play
    It is my observation that Degenerates are typically drawn to games where the pay out is many multiples of the original wager. 3 card poker because of the bonus bets (Pair Plus and 6 Card Bonus).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc12b View Post
    Even the 3/2 bj is back in main stream the casinos will do more like to raise their surveillance to catch AP, they are not stupid to let APs drain their coffers.
    this would be pretty stupid of them actually , but most casinos are run by idiots so this is likely true.

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    I don’t see why anything would change. A casino will need to focus on generating revenue at their best margin when they open. They will promote the most gamble from the widest audience that they can, but I don’t think they will change the games. Additionally, they will spend as little as possible to get running again. I’m sure printing a bunch of new table felts (that reduce their margin) just Isn’t going to happen. If people are dumb enough to play 6:5 before they are dumb enough to do it again.

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    Are the ploppies aware of the difference the changes from 3:2 to 6:5 made ? I'm not certain they did. If they didn't then why should they change back ?

    I would like to think it would go back to 3:2 but somehow I think we've all let it slide for too long now. If APs had been more proactive right from the get go advertising widely the negative effects of the changes I think things may have been different...

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