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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Well, apparently you are not having your cake and eating it either. You win 5 or 6 units and you wong out of plus counts and head for the door. Those free comps that you are getting must be out of this world. Could you please insert the picture in post #15 for me as in now I am applying it to you?
    "Apparently"? Really? Look up the definition of apparently.

    HTF would you know BoSox? What is apparent is not what is genius. If you don't know that already without my pissant ass telling you, then you are beyond all help. You're supposed to be an AP that knows the edge and ROR BEFORE placing a bet, but in reality you don't because you can't sim shit. Either show me some data or STFU and GTFOH.

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    Norm, these people are ruining another thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    Norm, these people are ruining another thread!
    Oh no you don't, unless these self aggrandizing pseudo experts stop posting their opinions as fact, I'm not going to stop challenging them. They never post any sim data that can be replicated to back up what they claim and expect you to just accept their opinions as gospel, fuck that...I'm not playing with their money, I'm playing with mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    Some members in this forum just can't handle it if you don't play their way.
    Or if you don't play at all ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkChip View Post
    Or if you don't play at all ;-)
    You made my day Pink!

    Here's a "dumb, stupid picture" just for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;281956
    Originally Posted by Wave


    So people were giving me crap for using a 1:4 spread and using small trip win goals (+4, +8, +12 units which are often met without raising my bet or were quickly met during a + count after which I quickly left while still in a + count) at the local casino I visit weekly and am milking for comps?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    Not including the one place I am milking, my spreads vary from 1:8 to 1:20 depending on the min bet of the table. There are just shy of 30 casinos within a 6 hour drive from me to spread my play, so it might be a year or 18 months before I return to a specific location. I don't use trip goals at the others, so there are plenty of opportunities to maximize wins.

    Milking one location is not the end of the world as errantly perceived by my critics. What's wrong with playing for comps at one place? Nothing. Many APs do it.

    Some members in this forum just can't handle it if you don't play their way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    Apparently"? Really? Look up the definition of apparently.

    HTF would you know BoSox? What is apparent is not what is genius. If you don't know that already without my pissant ass telling you, then you are beyond all help. You're supposed to be an AP that knows the edge and ROR BEFORE placing a bet, but in reality you don't because you can't sim shit. Either show me some data or STFU and GTFOH.
    Wave, you are within driving distance of up to almost thirty casinos that you say that you might visit only once in between 12 and 18 months where you use spreads anywhere between 1 to 8 and 1 to 20 based on the unit size. Meanwhile, you visit a local casino weekly where your goal there is to only milk the casino for comps. You accomplish this by limiting yourself to using very small spreads, as well as having small wins to the extreme of that end by actually sometimes Wonging out of positive counts to keep that win modest. Are you insane?

    All those weekly trips that you play for comps, just what do you think you are gaining? What are you losing in lost time, and money doing that bullshit weekly? I call that being pennywise and pound foolish, to say the least. The funny part is that you do not even see it yourself.
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    You seem like you're trying to be helpful in your last post, so I'll dial it back a bit.

    I don't play to make you happy BoSox, I play to make me happy. We, obviously, do not share the same goals. Yeah, it's only about 20 bucks an hour, but it's still fun...which is still important to me. Trips to the other stores are more like a workday, trips to my weekly seem like a play day. A :20-:30 drive to go have a little fun is worth it to me...after all, that's about the same amount of time to get to the gym or office.

    And BTW...since when does any player have to justify themself to you?
    Last edited by Wave; 01-14-2020 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Wave, you are within driving distance of up to almost thirty casinos that you say that you might visit only once in between 12 and 18 months where you use spreads anywhere between 1 to 8 and 1 to 20 based on the unit size. Meanwhile, you visit a local casino weekly where your goal there is to only milk the casino for comps. You accomplish this by limiting yourself to using very small spreads, as well as having small wins to the extreme of that end by actually sometimes Wonging out of positive counts to keep that win modest. Are you insane?

    All those weekly trips that you play for comps, just what do you think you are gaining? What are you loosing in lost time, and money doing that bullshit weekly? I call that being pennywise and pound foolish, to say the least. The funny part is that you do not even see it yourself.
    Bosox, the local casino is like a local “Cheers” bar or your girl friend. You want to treat it with respect. You keep the rough stuff for the whores (far away casinos) where you f%$&k, move on. Your girl friend is for the long run, the others are for quickies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Bosox, the local casino is like a local “Cheers” bar or your girl friend. You want to treat it with respect. You keep the rough stuff for the whores (far away casinos) where you f%$&k, move on. Your girl friend is for the long run, the others are for quickies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    I don't want to lose this game any sooner than necessary - it's the only one to which I have regular access and I'm not able to travel much.
    Based on the accuracy of the interface with the "new good dealer", I would suggest you have already lost it. Rethinking you is over.

    Going from 40:1 at a shoe end after a max bet is soooooooo niave. Design some better bet structures for your stores.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    That picture must be close to like two of the pit crew's reactions at your local casino when you asked them for a coffee shop comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Based on the accuracy of the interface with the "new good dealer", I would suggest you have already lost it. Rethinking you is over.

    Going from 40:1 at a shoe end after a max bet is soooooooo niave. Design some better bet structures for your stores.

    Time will tell. I think my larger mistake was continuing to play after security showed up so they could count me down, which they probably hadn’t yet.

    So far so good: 2 more sessions without heat, though both short.

    Again, the 40:1 was a one-time thing; I don’t normally do that.
    Last edited by Optimus Prime; 01-14-2020 at 02:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Based on the accuracy of the interface with the "new good dealer", I would suggest you have already lost it.
    Has anyone experienced this sort of heat where they put in a "fake" dealer to check you out and mess with your head? Everything about that move could have been a coincidence, which is what's bugging me.

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