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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Double our price. What's your level of expertise, and what's in your library now.
    I would say inexperienced, been learning and practicing for a couple of months, have learned BS and indices (25-30). Other than Professional Blackjack, my learning has mostly been through online articles, forums and instructional videos.

    If it really is worth it and I'll have to get it eventually I can just order it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Damn. Something about Zee pulls it out of me. Strictly Double Deck. Let's suppose for a moment that Zee is right and T3 is wrong. (felt weird to write, Ha!)

    Now Freighter is the happy medium. What would be wrong with learning Wong Halves for your 18 indices? You don't even have to change them.

    Zee, a "you can't" answer doesn't fly. You've already proved to be smarter than you want people to think.

    Big question. What do you have to lose? There is two 5s played an Ace and a 10. RC is +1. Yo Adrian I deed it!!!!

    Now look at all the years you've wasted argument against Hi Opt ii and the few hours it will take to simply count Level 3.
    That is stupid! If my car is getting me to where I want to go, should I trade it in for a Prius or a Ferrari? Why? Just because you think another is more comfortable or gets 2 miles more per gallon? People get upset because I repeat a posting but I do it to get as many different opinions O can get and then I select. I asked opinions on this forum and two others and made the decision to stay with HiLo and work on other aspects of the game. It has paid off. A majority on BJ21, BJ info, even Don S suggested correctly that if I was not meeting EV, it was not because of the count. I am now having the best year yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NB10 View Post
    "How much does Hi Opt II lower your variance vs Hi Lo?"
    I do not have a handy statistic, especially as
    varying table conditions must be factored in.
    I can say that Pragmatically Speaking the
    difference is extremely (impressively) large.
    When my students switch from a Level One
    Count to Hi-Opt II they are virtually unanimous
    in mentioning this - their subjective experience
    of reduced volatility!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    the difference is extremely (impressively) large
    I was looking for a table that converted "Extremely (impressively) large into a percentage.
    the only table I found was expressed in inches??.

    Extremely (impressively) large >= 10"
    Not sure what they are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    It is an absolute must have fir any serious library. For the newbie, there are references far more valuable. Like a fine wine, a beginner has to "age" into Blackjack Attack.

    Without the traditional references to grow in, I think a newbie would find this classic work somewhat daunting.
    Took the plunge and ordered it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBJ View Post
    "Extremely (impressively) large"
    Sorry. I meant to convey a subjective sense of
    session-to-session results, but I overstated it
    via hyperbole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    Sorry. I meant to convey a subjective sense of
    session-to-session results, but I overstated it
    via hyperbole.

    But hyperbole is your hallmark. So why are you apologizing? You should be saying, Oila!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    "But hyperbole is your hallmark."
    I do not appreciate such nonsensical statements.

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    But that's my hallmark too. Or is it my watermark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I do not appreciate such nonsensical statements.

    Sorry. The schnapps made me do it! Actually I'm going through a crisis. I'm effectively barred in every stinking casino in my home state. That means I am forced to emigrate to another jurisdiction. very fucking depressing, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I do not have a handy statistic, especially as
    varying table conditions must be factored in.

    Could you further define what you meant by varying table conditions as it is a rather vague interpretation, especially when you are answering a new player. One can only speculate on what you are trying to say.


    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I can say that Pragmatically Speaking the
    difference is extremely (impressively) large.

    Now that is real definitive! I am glad you cleared that up, and to think some of that difference is coming just from varying table conditions. My own interpretation of table conditions is how crowded the tables are at any specific point in time. Along with the cut card placement.


    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    When my students switch from a Level One
    Count to Hi-Opt II they are virtually unanimous
    in mentioning this - their subjective experience
    of reduced volatility!

    Are you sure that is not a unwritten required condition, that the students must say, for the free lessons. ZMF, this last part, I am just having a little fun with you.
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    juat showing my spliiting 10 qtrs, i used this several times a night, i post yhis at greay risk casinos will identify me, maybe i will remove the post. My splitting tens are determined by coin toss for cover and appease ploppies and i make my own luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    "Could you further define what you meant by varying table conditions."
    Certainly.

    Table Conditions vary by a great deal between locales, between casinos,
    and between BJ tables within the same casino.

    Table Conditions are as follows:

    Penetration
    S17 vs H17
    Number of Decks (1,2,3,4,6,8)
    Unlimited Doubling or Restricted Doubles
    Splits ~ unlimited or limited to 2 or 3 or 4 hands
    Double after Split permitted or forbidden
    Blackjack pays 3:2 or 6:5 or 1:1
    Side Bets ~ slowing the game speed
    Side Bets ~ exploitable?
    Player Crowding?
    Dealer Speed (50 to 200 hands per hr.)
    Dealer errors.
    Level of heat?
    Casino Database Subscriber? Contributor?
    Table minimums/maximums
    Requires increased bets for multiple hands?
    Late Surrender? Early Surrender vs. Ten?
    etc.
    etc.

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