What is the big difference between DD and 6D game ?

[greg16394]

Here in my local 5 casinos, they offer DD $25 Min. ENHC, DAS, H17, RSA, ES10, 50% Pen. (2-3 tables in a casino.)
6D shoe is just one table with 75-80% Pen. ($25 Min. Same Rules as DD)
Low stakes ($5-$10) are all CSM.

My goal is to play at 6D table with WO at TC-3. But, because there is only one of 6D table, might need to play at DD table.
I know 50% Pen in DD table is bad.

When I play at 6D table, WO, and go to DD table (in the same pit), they may suspect me.
So, I will play with CSM just a few rounds, (kind of Table hopping) for cover.

My question is; what should I keep in mind playing 6D and DD tables ?

[Jabberwocky]

One deck penetration at DD is playable if heads up. All csm games are not countable. This should answer your question.

[RS]

6D there are fewer or less often big bet opportunities, but when you come across it, there should be many. In DD, there are more frequent big bet opportunities, but when you get them, you may only have it for a few rounds. Idk if that's something "to keep in mind"...sort of an odd question I think.

[Bodarc]

My question is; what should I keep in mind playing 6D and DD tables ?

Which dealers give the best cut. Unless they have a slot, there will be differences.

Which dealers are fast and which ones spend all of your time talking.

How much you can spread without drawing heat. I played 2D game last night and spread 15 with no problem. Sometime I might even spread to 20. I have been doing this at my local casinos for 3 years with no problems. If I keep my minimum bets down, I can spread 30 to 50 on 6D and sit out some hands taking a smoke break or drinking something. Since it is your local casinos, you have a lot of time to determine what they will allow.

Which table is crowded. Some of my local casinos may have only 2 or 3 bj games going on a slow night. I look for the least crowded and if 3 or more come to my table, I look around for another one or I order coffee and sit out and take a break. The pit knows I am not going to play at a crowded table because I let them know I can't stand 9 people at the table all telling me how to play my hand. Most people can't stand to play heads up so if someone joins your table, take a short break and see if they leave.

Which dealers won't call out "Checks Play" if you put a bet out for them on high counts. What good is a 'thanks for the bet' when you have no money on the table. If you can get something for it, save your bets for very high counts. You'll hear a lot less 'Checks Play" calls.

Which pit critter is on duty and which direction does he like to face. Everyone has a certain direction they like to face. If you have a choice, sit at his back.

These things are more important than the number of decks.

[BoSox]

Since it is your local casinos, you have a lot of time to determine what they will allow.

That is exactly what it is all about! You very well could have multiple casinos to choose from in your local area, and if you made your favorites based on who offers the best EV game going strictly by what the book, or sims tells you, you are not thinking this all the way through. What good is the supposed better game on paper if the casino scrutinizes every bet increase or dollar you are ahead. Many people constantly argue about counting systems and would not know a good game if it was staring them right in the face. A good education in casino evaluation on acceptable betting tolerances, when to leave, temperament, blending in, your act, such as putting on a facade by showing emotion on hands results or giving the appearance of nonchalance etc are all part of perfecting your game that is learned over a lifetime of playing the game. You can only learn so much in books. Anyone who wants to critize my counting system go right ahead, I am to busy playing the game to concern myself.

[ZeeBabar]

+1

[marriedputter]

may be a little like making a wife-long commitment.

Having a wife is one hell of a commitment!

[marriedputter]

What is the difference between DD and 6D game ?

Time.

[Freightman]

That is exactly what it is all about! You very well could have multiple casinos to choose from in your local area, and if you made your favorites based on who offers the best EV game going strictly by what the book, or sims tells you, you are not thinking this all the way through. What good is the supposed better game on paper if the casino scrutinizes every bet increase or dollar you are ahead. Many people constantly argue about counting systems and would not know a good game if it was staring them right in the face. A good education in casino evaluation on acceptable betting tolerances, when to leave, temperament, blending in, your act, such as putting on a facade by showing emotion on hands results or giving the appearance of nonchalance etc are all part of perfecting your game that is learned over a lifetime of playing the game. You can only learn so much in books. Anyone who wants to critize my counting system go right ahead, I am to busy playing the game to concern myself.

I think another way of saying this is : better quality games tend to be more heavily scrutinized, which in itself creates higher levels of heat. Poorer game conditions that are still playable tend to be more tolerant, which is really important.

Though the above is generally true - do be cognizant of the occasional shitty game with high heat. Recognize them and have some humor value.

[marriedputter]

[QUOTE=Freightman;205609do be cognizant of the occasional shitty game with high heat. Recognize them and have some humor value.[/QUOTE]

I know of a 6D game, H17, RSA, DOA that cuts off 1 3/4 decks and is paranoid. I only play there when I have hit my personal win/loss at my other local joints and it is the only other place to go. Needless to say, I only play there about 10 times a year.

[Freightman]

I know of a 6D game, H17, RSA, DOA that cuts off 1 3/4 decks and is paranoid. I only play there when I have hit my personal loss at my other local joints and it is the only other place to go. Needless to say, I only play there about 10 times a year.

I still consider that as playable given proper spread. You can, and I have made a lot of money with those conditions.

Now, for humor sake on issue of paranoia - 2 Vegas scenarios.
Recent DT Vegas shitty DD pen with lousy rules and the seven minute backoff. The 2 vultures circled at raise from 25 to 50. Count went down and I hiked bet to 100. One of the vultures literally fell on the table panting out a no more blackjack for you. Some years back, red chip days, I lost my GPS and went casino hopping. I found the Tuscany. Hiked my bet from $10 to $30. Dealer calls checks play. 2 pant suit critters immediately surround attention as guardians of the gate. I whisper to table mate - watch them go ape shit. I hiked bet to $100. I leave you to surmise the conclusion.

[Freightman]

Bodarc sounds like he has found his own little slice of blackjack heaven. But it's the little instinctive things that has made it that way for him.

Beyond the sims and the theory, there is this little thing called scouting. Even within a wasteland, there are honey pots.

[BoSox]

Bodarc sounds like he has found his own little slice of blackjack heaven. But it's the little instinctive things that has made it that way for him.

I agree with you Moses, and the little instinctive things that you are talking about requires a lot of time and research looking for any kind of opening just like a boxing match. I myself am only referring to blackjack as I have rather poor vision. I do know exactly what I am looking for, whether its table/crowd conditions, discretionary cuts, or any other item regardless of how trivial it seems, to give you a better chance of winning.