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    Card counter
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    Card counter: Blackjack as a Business.

    Reveres book does not indicate if the indices on page 98 and 99 are for 1,2,4 or 6 decks. My guess is single deck. Also on page 30 and 31 he has the chart listed for plus minus strategy but does not give the index numbers or how many decks the chart is for. Frustrating indeed. If anyone knows the answers, i would be thankful.

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: all for single deck *NM*


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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: RPC Multi

    You had to pay for the multi-deck indexes. In fact you can still buy them. I went to Revere's house to get them from him. I have never been able to get permission to include them in CV which I find quite aggravating. So, I've developed a new set that will go into CV V3. They are simplified. That is, there are fewer TC levels to remember and the pattern of index numbers is simpler, yet they perform essentially the same as his. I'll post them when I get time.

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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Re: RPC Multi

    > I went to Revere's house to get them from him.

    With all due respect, I thought the guy was playing BJ in the clouds.

    How long has CV been around?

    SR

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: RPC Multi

    > With all due respect, I thought the guy was
    > playing BJ in the clouds.

    He is. My visit was a quarter of a century ago. It was well worth the trip. There is nothing like learning camo from an ex-casino guy. I spent an hour sitting at his kitchen table with him as dealer as he taught me how to avoid detection. I was not barred again for a couple of years.

    > How long has CV been around?

    A decade. I tried a couple of times to get permission from his family. They are still selling his stuff today.

    > SR

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    Parker
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    Parker: Revere website


    > A decade. I tried a couple of times to get
    > permission from his family. They are still
    > selling his stuff today.

    Indeed. His family maintains a website - link below.

    I often wonder how many people are still paying $200 for the RAPC.



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    quark
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    quark: Question for you, Norm.

    I am NOW in the market for a simulation program. I have looked around quite a bit several months ago, even downloaded Casino Verite (I think) and tried it out. Great graphics, but I discarded it quickly as I learned that it was "handicapped" by removing some low cards giving the "true count" a boost. I'm not sure if this is correct. (It was a year ago, and I was fairly naive about Blackjack.)

    I realize it might have been handicapped to encourage purchase of the "real" software, but I just didn't get it.

    I DO get it now. Just how much is your software? Can I run sims on ANY system I want? Even ones I "make up"?

    The MAIN deciding factor for me was that you said in a recent post to me that you had a "money back guarantee" if not satisfied. I know piracy is an issue for you, and that is NOT my goal. As a matter of fact, I will DENOUNCE the guarantee! You sold me on just on the fact that you WOULD offer such a deal. Must be good software!

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: Question for you, Norm.

    CVBJ is practice software, not sim software. CVData and CVCX are simulation packages. I have to find a better method of describing the differences. All products can be customized for most any counting strategy. Browse through www.qfit.com for details. CVBJ will be replaced by a new set of software tools soon. But the upgrade is free to purchasers of the last year. In fact it will be mailed automatically. I have a few hundred labels printed up and will mass produce the manuals and CDs.

    The guarantee doesn't really cost me much. I only get about one refund request a year.

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: RPC Multi

    > You had to pay for the multi-deck indexes.
    > In fact you can still buy them. I went to
    > Revere's house to get them from him. I have
    > never been able to get permission to include
    > them in CV which I find quite aggravating.
    > So, I've developed a new set that will go
    > into CV V3. They are simplified. That is,
    > there are fewer TC levels to remember and
    > the pattern of index numbers is simpler, yet
    > they perform essentially the same as his.
    > I'll post them when I get time.

    Note that Chambliss & Roginski, in "Fundamentals of Blackjack," published the indices for their multi-deck "C-R Point Count" many years ago. It is, of course, the RPC. I myself have used the multi-deck indices for over 25 years, and also have a customized set generated for me by a friendly competitor of yours! :-) Had you wanted to include RPC indices in CV, you should have asked me long ago.

    Don

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: RPC Multi

    Had you wanted to include RPC indices in CV, you should have asked me long ago.

    My policy has always been to include the exact indexes in the books since that's what people are used to. So I got permission from the various authors. Never could get permission for RPC or KO. So, I finally decided to add my own. I am also adding a set for KO which are easier to use but perform essentially the same as those in the book.

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    Mister M
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    Mister M: Re: Quark.

    If you buy any CV product you will be more than impressed,particularly CVBJ.No other product can compare.
    678 by stickysoft is a cheaper option in that it has both practice / simulation software included, but IMHO CV is worth the extra bucks.

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: RPC Multi

    > Had you wanted to include RPC indices in
    > CV, you should have asked me long ago. My
    > policy has always been to include the exact
    > indexes in the books since that's what
    > people are used to. So I got permission from
    > the various authors. Never could get
    > permission for RPC or KO. So, I finally
    > decided to add my own. I am also adding a
    > set for KO which are easier to use but
    > perform essentially the same as those in the
    > book.

    Ironically, you will probably find that the indices now available are more accurate than the ones in the book, or the pamphlets, anyway.

    Don

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    Guest

    .: Re: RPC Multi

    > I am also adding a
    > set for KO which are easier to use but
    > perform essentially the same as those in the
    > book.

    easier KO?! i don't think so...

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