Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 14

Thread: sunfighter: FIVE STUD POKER

  1. #1
    sunfighter
    Guest

    sunfighter: FIVE STUD POKER

    Does anybody know where do they offer five stud poker
    WITH THE OPTION OF CHANGING ONE CARD?

  2. #2
    Garry Baldy
    Guest

    Garry Baldy: Re: FIVE STUD POKER

    > Does anybody know where do they offer five stud poker
    > WITH THE OPTION OF CHANGING ONE CARD?

    Wow. I can tell ya that in Russia there are probably over the hundred of variants of this game with various options of changing and/or buying additional cards. Some of them have positive EV.

    Luck.

    Garry Baldy.

  3. #3
    rw
    Guest

    rw: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    Hi I'm new here and hopes somebody can help me with this question. I might be able to calculate this myself but if somebody allready have these numbers I don't want to waste my time doing it.

    The game is CSP/OSP
    You have the option to exchange one card. This cost you an amout equal to the ante.
    The payouts on your bet are(if you beat the dealers quallifying hand of AK or higher):
    RSF 100:1
    SF 50:1
    4 of a kind 20:1
    Full House 7:1
    Flush 5:1
    Straight 4:1
    3 of a kind 3:1
    2 pairs 2:1
    1 pair 1:1
    AK 1:1

    When the dealer doesn't quallify you push on your bet and get paid 1:1 on the ante.
    If you chose to exchange a card you don't quallify for any bonus payouts.

    What I'm looking for is the correct "exchange strategy" for the player and info on how much this "exchange one card" option reduces the house edge on the game if used correctly.
    The wizard of odds page tells me that the house edge for this game without the exchangeoption is 5,22%

  4. #4
    Garry Baldy
    Guest

    Garry Baldy: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    If you have information only about your cards this game is bad. About -2.5% from the ante.

    If you have information from other players' boxes... Well, this can be tricky game with a lot of creativity.

    But I should note that, first, it lies in the "grey area" because signals are involved. And second, the advantage is very small even with the knowledge of MANY cards, variance is high, and the speed of the game sucks. Putting aside relatively complex strategy.

    By the way I have computer analyzer of this game. English interface. Commercially distributed. Developed in Russia by one my friend. He sells it for 200 euro.

    Luck.

    Garry Baldy.

  5. #5
    sunfighter
    Guest

    sunfighter: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    > If you have information only about your cards this
    > game is bad. About -2.5% from the ante.

    > If you have information from other players' boxes...
    > Well, this can be tricky game with a lot of
    > creativity.

    > But I should note that, first, it lies in the
    > "grey area" because signals are involved.
    > And second, the advantage is very small even with the
    > knowledge of MANY cards, variance is high, and the
    > speed of the game sucks. Putting aside relatively
    > complex strategy.

    > By the way I have computer analyzer of this game.
    > English interface. Commercially distributed. Developed
    > in Russia by one my friend. He sells it for 200 euro.

    > Luck.

    > Garry Baldy.
    Hi I am interested on buying it for 200 euros.how do we procced?
    Thank you in advance.

  6. #6
    sunfighter
    Guest

    sunfighter: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    > Hi I'm new here and hopes somebody can help me with
    > this question. I might be able to calculate this
    > myself but if somebody allready have these numbers I
    > don't want to waste my time doing it.

    > The game is CSP/OSP
    > You have the option to exchange one card. This cost
    > you an amout equal to the ante.
    > The payouts on your bet are(if you beat the dealers
    > quallifying hand of AK or higher):
    > RSF 100:1
    > SF 50:1
    > 4 of a kind 20:1
    > Full House 7:1
    > Flush 5:1
    > Straight 4:1
    > 3 of a kind 3:1
    > 2 pairs 2:1
    > 1 pair 1:1
    > AK 1:1

    > When the dealer doesn't quallify you push on your bet
    > and get paid 1:1 on the ante.
    > If you chose to exchange a card you don't quallify for
    > any bonus payouts.

    > What I'm looking for is the correct "exchange
    > strategy" for the player and info on how much
    > this "exchange one card" option reduces the
    > house edge on the game if used correctly.
    > The wizard of odds page tells me that the house edge
    > for this game without the exchangeoption is 5,22%
    Tell me where do they play it and I can tell you some.
    by the way where are you from?I saw you were interested from the time that i posted a question about the game.

  7. #7
    Garry Baldy
    Guest

    Garry Baldy: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    By the way I found that he has demo-version that have VERY limited features - only one exchange of one card for one ante :-))))) So if the rules you described is all that you want you can simply download this demo and consider it as a full-blown product.

    Here is his website: http://cpra.ru/. It's totally in Russian. So you'd better go right to the http://cpra.ru/demo.htm and find there the link on the file called cpra416demo.

    Or simply type this: http://www.cpra.ru/files/cpra416demo.zip and start download.

    I sware that no viruses there, no popups, no ads and no other hidden tricks in this program.

    If you will decide to buy full version... Simply email the developer at [email protected]. His nickname is Blitz. You can say him that Garry Baldy recommended to ask him.

    Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in selling this program. This is not the advertising! I'm user of it and I'm a friend of developer, and that's it.

    Luck.

    Garry Baldy.

  8. #8
    Blitz
    Guest

    Blitz: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?


    Hi!

    Garry, thanks for your promoting of my product!

    I just would like to draw your attension that demo-version also has the following limitations: cost of exchange 1 card is equal to 0.9 ante and the combination of TWO PAIRS is paid 1.5 to 1 (four ante instead of five).

    I have short description in English, so you can apply via email with your questions.

    Regards,
    Blitz

  9. #9
    rw
    Guest

    rw: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    > Tell me where do they play it and I can tell you some.
    > by the way where are you from?I saw you were
    > interested from the time that i posted a question
    > about the game.

    Do you know the optimal strategy I was looking for ? I don't unterstand why you would keep it a secret or set conditions for you to tell me. I am sure that this game can't be beaten by an optimal strtegy alone and I don't condone cheating in any way(looking at other peoples cards etc.). I was just looking for a way to reduce the house edge and get more playing time for my money.

    best regards

    rw

    p.s sent you this in an email also but the email was returned saying that it had been cassified as SPAM and therefore not delivered to you.

  10. #10
    Orson
    Guest

    Orson: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    Hi Blitz,

    Long time, no hear. How are things? Any new versions of your software? Maybe you will finally solve the little problem I was constantly concerned about?

    Regards,
    Orson

    P.S. Just in case if you do not recognize me (never saw you before on English speaking websites), I am one of your first two customers, Grisha's friend.

  11. #11
    Blitz
    Guest

    Blitz: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?


    Hi Orson!

    I sent couple of messages to you informing about the upcoming updates with no responce from you... The latest version is 4.16 and it seems you don't have it. Plese send me a test message to confirm your actual e-mail.

    Your "little problem" is about to be solved, I'm nearly through with new "engine" for my software. I hope you can see it till the end of this month.

    Regards,
    Blitz

  12. #12
    sunfighter
    Guest

    sunfighter: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    > By the way I found that he has demo-version that have
    > VERY limited features - only one exchange of one card
    > for one ante :-))))) So if the rules you described is
    > all that you want you can simply download this demo
    > and consider it as a full-blown product.

    > Here is his website: http://cpra.ru/. It's totally in
    > Russian. So you'd better go right to the
    > http://cpra.ru/demo.htm and find there the link on the
    > file called cpra416demo.

    > Or simply type this:
    > http://www.cpra.ru/files/cpra416demo.zip and start
    > download.
    thank you in advance
    > I sware that no viruses there, no popups, no ads and
    > no other hidden tricks in this program.

    > If you will decide to buy full version... Simply email
    > the developer at [email protected]. His nickname is Blitz.
    > You can say him that Garry Baldy recommended to ask
    > him.

    > Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in selling
    > this program. This is not the advertising! I'm user of
    > it and I'm a friend of developer, and that's it.

    > Luck.

    > Garry Baldy.

  13. #13
    Orson
    Guest

    Orson: Re: Optimal strategy for this game - does anybody know it ?

    Hi Bitz,

    It is pretty strange, I still have the same e-mail and it normally works OK. I am out of home at the moment, will send you an e-mail in few days when I got home. Meanwhile, you can also use my hotmail address, which you can see above. Regards,
    Orson

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.