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Thread: Mark: Has anybody else lost in the Czec Republic.

  1. #27
    little bear
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    little bear: everything ok...

    ...I played all of the places mentioned and have a positive score at all exept palais savarin (and even there my loss seems to be random). I am about ck 500k up in henrys and 300k up im parkhotel, just to mention the "most suspect ones".
    A lot of places use cards without white borders, i never detected any cheat because of that. An example is the well-known banco.
    I observe the shuffle with breaking the discard pile in 6 packs at a lot of places in the world, including a place with my best session.
    I understand why people told about cheat 1 or 2 years ago, there were good games to protect! But theese have been burned out! Admit it! No cheat there!
    Mark, you lost randomly and remember old horror stories posted by others and you are worried now. If you are worried, go to russia, and they will tell you that the mafia executes casino winners or that they do not change back chips or that they give you fake money....Yes, good games must be protected! but no longer in Prague.

    > Hi,

    > I believe I have been cheated in Prauge.
    > After a couple of days play I have run up significant
    > loses in a very suspisious manner.
    > I have lots of hours up as a counter and my results
    > arn't out of line with expectaion, so its possible I'm
    > just imagining it because I lost.

    > Has anybody else who counts lost here ?

    > I have no hard evidence.

    > Here is what makes me suspisious ...

    > At Casino Henry I played a couple of shoes and they
    > were cuting off a little over 2 decks. I saw all the
    > cards and they were shuffled, nothing much happened.
    > There was some talking in Czec the dealer was changed
    > from a clueless girl to a young streetwise looking
    > Czec guy. He seemed to shuffle normally then cut about
    > 1.25 out of six. Great ! I thought. The count went
    > positive and I just kept losing. It finished highly
    > positive and I had lost all the money in front of me.
    > I stopped.

    > I think he somehow shuffled the 10s behind the cut
    > card and then gave deep pen to intice me to bet.

    > A similar thing happened to me at the Savrin which is
    > part of a large reputable corporate chain.
    > I had usd table to myself. I was getting about 2 decks
    > cut from 6 by the lady dealers and things were rolling
    > along ok. I lost a bit, the count went postive I
    > raised my bet and won a few hundred USD. Suddenly the
    > dealer was changed to a young man. Anyway it was
    > getting late so I decided to quit for the night. I
    > turned to him and said "Well I'm winning so I
    > think I'll quit." He flinched with annoyance and
    > stared to tremble a bit, then composed him self and
    > said good night.

    > When I returned the next day he was rosted on after a
    > couple of shoes, gave me great penitration and then
    > proceded to take all my money. Again the count went
    > positive and finished positive.

    > I also lost at the Royal. I don't know if they are
    > doing this on purpose, but its very effective.
    > I went there on the defensive and got them to give me
    > fresh decks, which they layed out and shuffled.
    > Instead of being spread out like normal they were
    > arranged in small fans. They were then turned over,
    > mixed very lightly and shuffled in a poor way.
    > When a fresh deck is layed out it runs A23...QK so the
    > cards arrange them selves in clumps.

    > I lost about 800 usd in the first shoe and then
    > realised what was going on. You can see the cards
    > clumped in their suited groups. Mabey it goes
    > Ac 3h 2c 4h 3c . Sometimes the groups are corrupted
    > with a couple of high cards but the effect is that you
    > lose fast and lots.
    > You are always being set up on double downs.
    > I made a scene and called over the floor manager. He
    > spead out the unplayed cards and sure enough they were
    > clumped.
    > He offered to prove all the cards were in the deck. I
    > offered the cards as evidence of clumping. The dealers
    > all started laughing and I was told that was just how
    > the blackjack goes. He then told me that I should play
    > somewhere else if I didn't trust the house.

    > I also lost at the VIP. I was counting for over/under
    > but it never ever became good enough to bet it.
    > Instead I lost about 200 small bet units in the space
    > of 2.5 hours. Everything seemed in order but the game
    > just didn't seem to run right.

    > There was one casino under a big hotel which I believe
    > is actually a fair game. I lost a little there. Once I
    > started varying my bets they changed the cut from 2 to
    > 3. Which is consistant with normal casino behaviour.

  2. #28
    Mozart
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    Mozart: Re: everything ok...

    It is possible they don't cheat now. Park Hotel was cheating by dealing seconds, I know 2 pros who went twice to ParkHotel and twice they lost heavily.
    Royal (now closed) was cheating at BJ by more sophisticated way, I know exactly how but it will take too much time to explain. The game is same like many years ago. What do u mean it should be protected? Do u justify cheating?

  3. #29
    PraguePlayer
    Guest

    PraguePlayer: Re: everything was not ok...

    I won from SP. Henry... you won 500K Cr there? I lost heavilly there. My patner lost then looked hard on the female dealer's hand. She was wife of a manager. A new dealer was brought in allowing my partner won back all her loss. I talked to two casino people at different casinos. One told me Royal (where I played and lost heavilly) was closed by the Government for cheatings. The other used working at Henry, left for sex harrasments of new owner. She confirmed the cheating there.

  4. #30
    HALVESX2
    Guest

    HALVESX2: Re: everything ok...

    > What do u mean it should be protected? Do u
    > justify cheating?

    i dont think little bear was saying that the casino should be protecting their game. he doesnt justify cheating.
    wat he meant was that AP's were trying to protect their places by telling others that's those places cheat, that ppl cannot win there and etc in an effort to stop other AP's from playing in those places and burning the game out.

  5. #31
    little bear
    Guest

    little bear: correct!

    > i dont think little bear was saying that the casino
    > should be protecting their game. he doesnt justify
    > cheating.
    > wat he meant was that AP's were trying to protect
    > their places by telling others that's those places
    > cheat, that ppl cannot win there and etc in an effort
    > to stop other AP's from playing in those places and
    > burning the game out.

    indeed i do not justify cheating. i think some APs created rumours about cheat in order to terrify others. at least i never degtected any cheat....

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