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    williwong21
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    williwong21: 3 mile rules

    A boat goes out 3 miles in international waters.What are the barring rules?They're half shoeing me now.Do they refuse your entrance next time?One guy said to me,"I want you off this boat."I was in the middle of an ocean.Willi.

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    zengrifter
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    zengrifter: Re: 3 mile rules REMINDS ME...

    > A boat goes out 3 miles in international
    > waters.What are the barring rules?They're
    > half shoeing me now.Do they refuse your
    > entrance next time?One guy said to
    > me,"I want you off this boat."I
    > was in the middle of an ocean.Willi.
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    ...of a story -

    A magician worked on a cruise ship. The audience was different each week,so the magician did the same tricks over and over again.

    One problem: The captain's parrot saw the shows each week and began to see how the magician did every trick. Once he understood, he started shouting in the middle of the show:

    "braaak, its a different hat!", "braaaak, the flowers are under the table," "braaaak,
    all the cards are ace of spades! braaaak"

    The magician was furious but couldn't do anything. It was, after all,
    the captain's parrot.

    Then the ship sank. The magician found himself on a piece of wood in the middle of the sea with, as fate would have it, the parrot. They stared at each other but did not utter a word. This went on for a day and then another.

    Finally on the third day, the parrot could not hold back: "braaaak, where's the ship? I give up, braaaak, braaaak!"


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    Mr. Lucky
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    Mr. Lucky: The misconception about ocean cruises to nowhere

    > A boat goes out 3 miles in international
    > waters.

    International waters don't start until you go out 12 miles, which gambling boats do not pass. If they did go out that far, they'd have to go through immigration and customs each time they come back. Three miles out is the typical border between state and federal waters. They cross this in states where gambling is not legal in order to be able to conduct business legally. They are still bound by federal laws when the casino is open. And they are subject to many state laws as well since they dock and have an office on state soil.

    >What are the barring rules?

    They don't want you back, they'll tell you just like any casino, and they can trespaas you as you're leaving the casino just like any land-based casino can do. You come back, and you are subject to arrest.

    >They're
    > half shoeing me now.Do they refuse your
    > entrance next time?One guy said to
    > me,"I want you off this boat."I
    > was in the middle of an ocean.Willi.

    If they're continually half-shoeing you, why stay? Did you really need to wait until an employee told you to leave. I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean for you to jump overboard. The thing about a boat, when you're done, you're pretty much done. There's only one point of entry with plenty of time to be spotted before gaming begins, and there probably aren't that many pits either. I think it's time to find another candy store Willi.

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    williwong21
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    williwong21: Re: The misconception about ocean cruises to nowhe

    Thanx for the reply.Willi.

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: The misconception about ocean cruises to nowhe

    When the first gambling ship began service in New York, I think the city extended the city limits to 12 miles out to sea making the business unprofitable. After a lot of rangling and court time, the New York City Gambling Control Commission was created just for this one casino. Mayor Giuliani put his cousin in charge of the commission. The ship now travels three miles but is regulated and taxed by the city.

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    Mr. Lucky
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    Mr. Lucky: Yeah, but Long Island's Majesty

    is now parked on South Beach in Miami where there is no state regulation. I guess it's easier to make a profit in Florida despite all the competition.

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    Igor
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    Punter
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    Punter: Re: 3 mile rules

    > A boat goes out 3 miles in international
    > waters.What are the barring rules?They're
    > half shoeing me now.Do they refuse your
    > entrance next time?One guy said to
    > me,"I want you off this boat."I
    > was in the middle of an ocean.Willi.
    i don't understand the rules, but in Florida ships on the East Coast go out three miles and they don't cross any state lines. On Florida's West Coast they go out nine miles. Most of them have Panamian Registry and have no state jurisdiction. Because they fly foreign flags, they are required ( at major ports (Palm Beach, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami) to have a pilot come aboard and bring the ship to and from the dock.

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    Mr. Lucky
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    Mr. Lucky: Not exactly.

    > i don't understand the rules, but in Florida
    > ships on the East Coast go out three miles
    > and they don't cross any state lines. On
    > Florida's West Coast they go out nine miles.

    Uh, in Florida, 3 miles out from the Atlantic coast and 9 miles out from the Gulf coast is how far the state line travels. In other words, if you are less than 3 miles off the coast of Miami or less than 9 miles off Tampa's coast, you are in Florida waters, and are bound by Florida laws exactly the same as if you were standing on Florida soil. Either the Florida Marine Patrol or that county's sherriff's office will be the ones to enforce laws when you're within Florida's waters. When they leave Florida waters (go past the 3 or 9-mile point), the boats are then in Federal waters and are still subject to all federal laws. However, they can gamble as it is not illegal at the federal level to conduct gambling. These boats NEVER go beyond the 12-mile point as that is when international waters begin. If they did, they'd have to go through both immigration and customs every sailing. Every single passenger would have to show proof of citizenship, etc., etc.

    > Most of them have Panamian Registry and have
    > no state jurisdiction. Because they fly
    > foreign flags, they are required ( at major
    > ports (Palm Beach, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami) to
    > have a pilot come aboard and bring the ship
    > to and from the dock.

    Wrong. I believe Sea Escape has Panamanian registry, Palm Beach Princess has Bahamian registry, and all the Sun Cruz ships are registered in America. This has absolutely nothing to do with the pilot having to come on board. Only the largest ships (over 100 tons), such as Sterling Ambassador, Palm Beach Princess, and Sea Escape have to have a port licensed pilot come on board and dock the ship. The reason for this is that the pilots of larger vessels, including both cruise and cargo ships, have to have a special advanced pilot's license to dock at or pass through the port. Most gambling ships can't afford to pay such a pilot, so they pay the port ($240 a docking I believe) to have a pilot come on board right before the ship enters the inlet. The reason for this is purely a safety issue; One underqualified pilot can do a massive amount of damage when attempting to dock a large vessel. I believe Discovery has their own licensed pilot.

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    williwong21
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    williwong21: Re: Yeah, but Long Island's Majesty

    That's not why they left.Rumours are they were bought or forced out.Willi.

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