How do I add antes into cvcx? Most of my casinos have antes and I’m not getting accurate information by omitting these.
I would avoid the ante if I could, however there are only two double deck games in my hometown. One of these casinos is the only listed in bj21 with the warning of: "Do not play if you suspect cheating." Ive had the worst luck along with anyone else Ive played with there-- coincidentally only on their "ante free days." However the 2nd casino has antes but I've had varied success there. So puts me in kind of a tough spot for just starting out, as travel play isn't an option at this point considering my bankroll. Hence, my desire to run a formula to account for this ante problem that is virtually unavoidable for the most part.Originally Posted by moo321
Also I should add the 2nd casino hand shuffles and a particular dealer whos older and has complained about pain in her hands, has very deep deep deck penetration-- makes sense so she doesnt have to shuffle as much.
Last edited by BunnyBizkit; 05-14-2025 at 07:41 AM.
With the very unusual BJ21 warning of "Do not play if you suspect cheating," and your "worst luck," don't you think it's reasonable to assume that you may be getting cheated? I think you have more serious things to worry about than just antes! So, between the possible cheating and the antes, my best advice to you is not to play there. It's not a reasonable way to start out your playing career.
It doesn't sound like these are places where you're going to build your bankroll. My grandfather used to have a saying: "If it's good, it will keep." Patience.
Don
Thanks for the perspective. I was unsure about the cheating, because Ive seen veterans crap over the ideas that casinos have no need to cheat. I have since avoided that place for table games. I guess a follow up question would be since I apparently do indeed need to travel to build a bank roll, what would a proper trip amount be in proportion to my bankroll be? Is there a general percentage to follow? Ive noticed in cvcx the math doesnt change at all based on trip amount.
Those people are stupid and wrong. Casinos can and do cheat. With corporate casinos, it tends to be things like freerolling you for millions of dollars on a legitimate advantage play (Phil Ivey), refusing to pay promotions, false claims that they need ID to cash your chips, passing an added hand to keep an ace for the dealer, etc.
But there is absolutely still deck stacking, second dealing, and things like that going on. In the US. At corporate casinos. I've seen it. Usually it's covering losses when money is being dumped to a confederate. But Indian casinos have been caught red-handed doing all kinds of outright cheating. I'm talking marked decks. And you can't sue and attack the tribe's assets because of tribal immunity (see Nersesian's book). So, you can sue the dealer for whatever assets a working class, entry-level worker might have, and that's your only recourse.
This goes to my oft-repeated point. People say stupid, ignorant stuff on the internet. And it gets repeated. Then it becomes "common knowledge" and misleads a whole generation of new players. And when people are all nicey-nice about it, it doesn't stop. This is why I'm direct, and sometimes confrontational, when people spout ignorant nonsense. It ends up costing real people their entire bankrolls.
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