Can counting cards affect becoming a dealer?

[Gunerang]

Hello! I recently got a job as a casino dealer, I'm on the background investigation part of it. I used to count cards, only ever backed-off from one casino in the area. Recently got hired at a different casino I've counted cards at but never got any heat or let alone a back-off. I am worried that during the background investigation they will find me in the casinos internal or external database and drop my application. Does anyone know if having previously counted cards at a casino and then becoming a table games dealer would disqualify you from the position? Please let me know I didn't mention it during the interview and have been paranoid if it will come up. -Thank you

[Archvaldor]

Hello! I recently got a job as a casino dealer, I'm on the background investigation part of it. I used to count cards, only ever backed-off from one casino in the area. Recently got hired at a different casino I've counted cards at but never got any heat or let alone a back-off. I am worried that during the background investigation they will find me in the casinos internal or external database and drop my application. Does anyone know if having previously counted cards at a casino and then becoming a table games dealer would disqualify you from the position? Please let me know I didn't mention it during the interview and have been paranoid if it will come up. -Thank you

The potential issue is that they may suspect you will work some kind of collusion scam.

Smarter places understand the clear division between counter and cheater-in my experience a counter is significantly less likely to be dishonest. But a lot of people who work for casinos are very stupid and don't understand that.

It sounds to me quite probable that they either don't know you are a counter or don't care. I wouldn't worry too much.

[DSchles]

I'll take the other side of Archvaldor's argument. Can you not see how casino management could greatly value the presence of a dealer who can count cards?

Don

[LVBear584]

Hello! I recently got a job as a casino dealer, I'm on the background investigation part of it. I used to count cards, only ever backed-off from one casino in the area. Recently got hired at a different casino I've counted cards at but never got any heat or let alone a back-off. I am worried that during the background investigation they will find me in the casinos internal or external database and drop my application. Does anyone know if having previously counted cards at a casino and then becoming a table games dealer would disqualify you from the position? Please let me know I didn't mention it during the interview and have been paranoid if it will come up. -Thank you

If you have the ability to competently count cards, why would you consider such a miserable job as being a dealer? With the exception of a few high-end places, dealing is a low-paying, dead-end job of drudgery, miserable hours, unpredictable schedule, no job security, and working with many terrible people on both sides of the table.

[21forme]

I'll take the other side of Archvaldor's argument. Can you not see how casino management could greatly value the presence of a dealer who can count cards?

Don - The key words are casino management

If you have the ability to competently count cards, why would you consider such a miserable job as being a dealer? With the exception of a few high-end places, dealing is a low-paying, dead-end job of drudgery, miserable hours, unpredictable schedule, no job security, and working with many terrible people on both sides of the table.

You omitted having smoke blown in your face.

[Archvaldor]

If you have the ability to competently count cards, why would you consider such a miserable job as being a dealer? With the exception of a few high-end places, dealing is a low-paying, dead-end job of drudgery, miserable hours, unpredictable schedule, no job security, and working with many terrible people on both sides of the table.

A surprisingly small number of Americans have the bankroll to count cards.

That said the job is horrible, try and find an alternative if you can.

[peterlee]

I know a Chinese AP who card counting in LV downtown.
One of a small casino boss knows what he is doing, then ask him if he is willing to work in his TV room, to catch counting and cheating.
He has been working for months now.

[Blackjack player]

If i was you, i would tell them i can count cards. They will hire you 100% if they are even little smart. And a better job than just a dealer

[Gunerang]

Even if they hire me for knowing to count cards what's the incentive? The casino is just gonna make me work harder for no extra pay. Id rather dummy up and deal to make more tips than to play the part of surveillance for them.

[Gunerang]

That's a dream scenario what a cool casino boss

[Gunerang]

Easily still better that what I'm doing now. Serving fried chicken part-time to entitled EBT-people in a grocery store deli.

[judgeholdem1848]

I got hired a very long time ago at an indian casino and made no effort to hide the fact that I wanted to deal BJ in order to practice card counting. I made it through 3 weeks of training. My first two or three times on the floor, I made a few payout errors. The boss asked me if they were the result of "practicing card counting". I said no, then got fired a shift or two later. There's my probably inapplicable 2 cents.

[stopgambling]

The act of saying you can count probably made the boss jealous and paranoid , even though it is not a tough thing to do , It still require discipline and some training. He probably you are flexing ,therefore doesn't like it. BTW , what is EBT?