Wow. As many as that.Originally Posted by bjarg
Hey everyone. I already have my first trip planned. Im planning on taking a camera so I can film entire sessions and upload them to a youtube channel as demos. I will try to do this in every casino I go to so I can build solid evidence to demonstrate the validity of the play. Of course the videos will be long because they will be uploaded uncut.
1) If (IF) "casinos" pull those games out, by the time that happens my big mouth and the ones of the players that took advantage of the play will be relaxing with more profit than you could make in 100 lifetimes.
2) Apparently you are american and you have ZERO experience playing internationally. The world is a very big place and 99% of the casinos of the world dont read this board or any other boards for that matter so even if I openly post about it (which I wont) there are probably a handful of casinos that will do anything about it.
3) If casinos actually pulled games out because you can get an advantage do you think blackjack tables would still exist?
4) Like I said in the OP (which apparently you either didnt read or are too stupid to understand), information will only be shared with players that I either know or that have someone i know that can vouch for them. Is this a bulletproof tactic for the play not to reach casino execs or the game manufacturers? Probably not, since if it gains traction they will probably find a way to get to it. But like I said in (1), by the time this happens, many many years from now, me personally and the players that got on board early wont give a rat's ass.
I will let you know in a couple of years how much $ this play reports and we will analyze together if it was stupid or not.
maybe I should clarify that this play is something I personally developed after MANY hours of studying the game of roulette and analyzing THOUSANDS of roulette spins in this machines, so my big mouth has gained the right to do whatever it wants with the information it has learned. The day you develop your own play (...) Im sure you will be happy to enjoy the same privilege
This is really an over the top arrogant response to a poster who's almost certainly himself a pro and is making a valid if tendentious overall point, especially considering that you've priced these plays at $10k a pop. And I get that AP rackets can't be priced like a midsized business.
Consider that but for one single line, probably 3 seconds, out of one single youtube video that a person we all probably know put up like 15 years ago, I probably wouldn't still be gambling at this point. I've got plenty of deer in my territory, for now. But our wayward youtuber might at some point find himself and his pack up against a better model of wolf forged on a different continent 10 years hence. And all for what he surely thought was a harmless sales pitch.
You may be right, but only dangerously.2) Apparently you are american and you have ZERO experience playing internationally. The world is a very big place and 99% of the casinos of the world dont read this board or any other boards for that matter so even if I openly post about it (which I wont) there are probably a handful of casinos that will do anything about it.
I'm 99% sure at this point you're legit and your play is legit. In fact I probably know about what it is. And you're right casino execs and even designers prob don't, ofc the designers in question lol. Everyone here also knows that if it's on the low end of your 5-20 range, it's gonna take a hell of a lot of hands to demonstrate.
I would just skip youtube tbh.
Last edited by judgeholdem1848; 02-26-2025 at 10:10 PM.
You think so? I think is under the top considering he refered to me as stupid.
I also think both of your points are quite hypocritical considering (and assuming you are actually players who profit from blackjack) that you benefit from the information and plays that other people with big mouths and big pens decided to share or sell at some point in time.
I can assure you you dont know what it is.
And considering that I have no interest in spending time in casinos and that the profit I want to make from it is from selling it to other players, what do you think will happen when I post uncut videos of the play at work? Maybe at that point instead of 10 I will sell it for 20 or 30. After 20 minutes of any of those videos anybody who knows even a little bit about roulette will realize about its profit potential.
I can understand the point you are making coming from a traditional ap perspective, but Im not a person interested in spending time travelling and inside casinos any more.
Can you somehow make the video private? If you're using any custom KPIs, I can all but promise you're going to have people reverse engineering it for $0. Roulette's not a game where you want to go around handing smart people free epiphanies they would probably never realize on their own.
There's a thread up at what's left of 2+2 right now contending that online Hold'em, with its quadrillion game states, is completely dead as a means to earn money. I concur and add that it was mostly dead in 2015, about 3 years after players started making videos en masse and handing out free epiphanies at the mouth of their sales funnel.
Of course. The videos will be private and like I said in the OP they will only be shared with players that I either know, or know someone that can vouch for them. Not fool proof, but "best effort" is all I can aspire to.
The videos cannot be reversed engineered. Unless you are familiarized with very specific information on how this machines function it would be impossible to figure out how this works. Thats why I can offer a live demo before getting paid.
Thanks for your insights.
Wow you judging that Achvaldor made less than 20grand his whole career?
Also are you going to reveal the reasons why the machine is able to give 5% or are you just going to tell him “here do this and that and you are going to get 5% EV”
Lastly, Your 5-20percent EV is it just a guess or estimate or mathematical proof?
I once had someone gave me an estimate of the EV and it turned out grossly inaccurate resulting in me losing 50Grand. That’s big money.
Another one...
1) what hat did you get that 20 grand number from?
2) No need to reveal any reasons to understand how to play it and how to adjust the play when conditions change (which they will).
3) There is is no such thing as mathematical proof or certainty in roulette. You are playing mostly against physics and against conditions that are impossible to simulate or even model. You dont know much about it do you? Estimations based on real life data and information is the best you can get.
4) If you risked money in a game based on the word and the estimations of another person and without any sort of confirmation on your part then you certainly deserved to lose that money. I think Ive made it pretty clear that not a cent will be payed until the play is fully demonstrated and the person is happy with what he sees. So that risk is just not there.
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