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    Roulette

    Hello everyone.
    I will try to make this as short as possible.
    I have spent the last year working on a system that can consistently beat some specific models of electronic roulette.
    Certain conditions that are fairly easy to detect need to be present in order to be able to beat them.
    Advantage varies from 5% to 20% (depending on conditions, roulette model, settings, etc). With big variance of course.

    I am selling this system for $10.000 under the following conditions:

    1) You find the roulette models that are vulnerable and scout for certain conditions that I will describe by mail. I will tell you which models you need to find.

    2) If any of the wheels meet the criteria, I will travel to your location for 2/3 days and I will do the analysis in site that is needed to determine whether the wheel is beatable or not. It may happen that the analysis shows that the wheel cant be beaten, in which case nothing can be done.

    3) If the wheel is actually vulnerable to this strategy I will play it live with you present for as many hours as you wish so you can actually see it win.

    4) Once you are happy with the demonstration and confirm that the strategy is actually winning and that the wheel can be beaten, you will make payment so I can share with you how to do it yourself.

    Notes:

    1) I will only answer requests from APs that I know historically from this forum (or others) or if somebody known in this community can vouch for you that you are a real AP. I imagine i will receive many mails from casino molls.

    2) Beating a wheel using this strategy will not require any special set of skills and once the strategy is defined playing it in a consistent manner is very simple. A little practice and training will be required, but nothing complex. even somebody that has never played roulette before will be able to do it after practicing little bit.

    3) I will play the strategy as long as needed to confirm that the strategy is actually winning, but if you have any experience playing roulette you will realize it is in a very short time.

    4) if the roulette is beatable, I will only play the strategy to cover my own expenses for the trip. After that, the wheel will be all yours to exploit. I will let you know what are the red flags you need to pay attention to realize if the casino is on to your strategy and has made changes so you can adjust to them or stop playing.

    5) The price will be for 1 wheel in 1 casino. If more wheels meet the initial criteria we can discuss new prices for those as well, depending on how many have to be analyzed.


    If interested please email me at [email protected].

    Thanks

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    One roulette wheel biased at 5% or more is worth a lot more than $10,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    One roulette wheel biased at 5% or more is worth a lot more than $10,000.
    It is not a bias. At least not in the traditional sense. And how much it is worth would depend on how long it can be exploitded and for how much $.

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    Why not just keep it to yourself and make billions instead of selling it for a measly $10k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    Why not just keep it to yourself and make billions instead of selling it for a measly $10k?
    Because it is not possible to make billions with it. If you have time and play it smart, you will probably make several times the 10k, it will depend on how much time you want to dedicate to scouting.

    I do very well with what I do, I have family so I cant spend time travelling and scouting, and I do play this strategy in my home town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjarg View Post
    Because it is not possible to make billions with it. If you have time and play it smart, you will probably make several times the 10k, it will depend on how much time you want to dedicate to scouting.

    I do very well with what I do, I have family so I cant spend time travelling and scouting, and I do play this strategy in my home town.
    My point is, when people find something new, they should keep their traps shut! I have several games that I play with an edge that I've never seen discussed before. I wouldn't tell anyone about them. Once you tell or show one person, then the floodgates get opened because of egos and other things and those plays get shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    My point is, when people find something new, they should keep their traps shut! I have several games that I play with an edge that I've never seen discussed before. I wouldn't tell anyone about them. Once you tell or show one person, then the floodgates get opened because of egos and other things and those plays get shut down.
    Does it look to you like I care?
    You dont seem to be understanding that I am personally not interested in spending time in casinos anymore.
    I couldnt care less what happens with the strategy once its out there.
    However Im assuming that the real and active APs that have the capacity to pay for this and actually exploit it will have the same mentality as you and will be certainly interested in keeping the play for themselves.

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    Last edited by judgeholdem1848; 02-13-2025 at 01:15 AM.

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    Is OP in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    My point is, when people find something new, they should keep their traps shut! I have several games that I play with an edge that I've never seen discussed before. I wouldn't tell anyone about them. Once you tell or show one person, then the floodgates get opened because of egos and other things and those plays get shut down.
    That can happen but generally speaking only with more obvious plays. If you tell people about a game where the dealer runs out of cards for example, or a game where they are paying 2-1 on a blackjack, the game will die in days or even hours.

    With non-standard plays not so much. There are publicly available methods online, some posted on here, which are roughly equivalent to what the op is talking about. Most people just don't have an eye for and are not interested in exotic plays. Often there is a difficulty separating legitimate advantage plays from progression/clumping/voodoo-based systems.

    That said I don't think this is a good way to monetize a play. You need to establish credibility with the market. It is better to build trust with larger teams/syndicates. I noticed after posting quality stuff publicly I often would get offers from sharp teams for material they knew I was holding back-even though I wasn't and don't actually sell information. Without establishing that level of trust I doubt you will get many takers, simply because of the dangers of being ripped off.

    Does it look to you like I care?
    You dont seem to be understanding that I am personally not interested in spending time in casinos anymore.
    I couldnt care less what happens with the strategy once its out there.
    However Im assuming that the real and active APs that have the capacity to pay for this and actually exploit it will have the same mentality as you and will be certainly interested in keeping the play for themselves.
    I don't think you understand your market. "Real and active players" generally have their own portfolio of secret plays that they don't even have time to fully implement.

    You put off potential buyers with that attitude. You are communicating that you will get angry with potential buyers if they ask you difficult questions. This is already a high pressure situation.

    If people are giving you money then you need to at least be civil.
    Last edited by Archvaldor; 02-14-2025 at 01:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archvaldor View Post
    I don't think you understand your market. "Real and active players" generally have their own portfolio of secret plays that they don't even have time to fully implement.

    You put off potential buyers with that attitude. You are communicating that you will get angry with potential buyers if they ask you difficult questions. This is already a high pressure situation.

    If people are giving you money then you need to at least be civil.
    You make yourself look dumb posting stuff like that. Ive been a member of the AP community for more than 15 years and all the active players here who I would be interested in doing business with know Im a bit rough around the edges.

    Also, I apparently know the market far better than you do because this exact same approach is one I already used 2 times to make money with teams and players here disclosing plays I wasnt going to exploit anymore. All of then made several X the amount they paid for those 2 plays. You can rest assured that anybody who knows me knows that if Im selling something is going to be worth their time.

    The way I talk doesnt matter. Im offering the chance to see the play in real time before paying a single dollar. Thats the only thing that matters.

    Lastly, I would invite you to see my inbox and see for yourself if my approach is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgeholdem1848 View Post
    Is OP in the US?
    No.

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    First 10 casinos already confirmed. Im guessing it will take me at leaste 3-4 months to travel to all of those places so Im saving unanswered mails to get in touch once this first 10 are done. Thanks to all.

    Edit: the play DOES NOT involve computer / device play.

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