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    How to play bj when you can bet up to table max on insurance with a min bet on hand?

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    In theory you could get an edge by attacking the insurance bet. You would want to use an insurance count (tens vs. non-tens). I think it actually might be a decent game. I can't think of an easy way to run the numbers on it.


    Next time, I wouldn't post all the details like that. It can get games killed from both sides reading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadman376 View Post
    Can anyone tell me the best way to bet on this game and which one to play?

    The 1st is a $10-$400, 2 deck game with 1 deck penetration, H17, DAS.

    The 2nd is a $5-$400, 6 deck game with 1.3 cutoff, H17, DAS, RSA.

    A friend of mine told me many years ago he found a similar game at a charity game with a $200 limit.

    Thanks for any input,
    -Steve

    Count -9 for tens and +4 for all other cards. That's a perfect insurance count.

    Forget about counting the other aspects of the game this is a very favorable situation. I'd need to know the game spread and likely heat to make an assessment as to which game was preferable.

    I agree with Moo that is in your interest to delete this thread. I imagine someone will help you out privately. The game is valuable if it as you describe-you should bear this in mind before sharing its location,

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    Thanks for your responses.

    Sorry for posting this on a public board. Wasnt thinking.

    How do I delete it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadman376 View Post
    Thanks for your responses.

    Sorry for posting this on a public board. Wasnt thinking.

    How do I delete it?

    Go to edit post on the bottom right of your post. You must be logged in. Then you should see a "delete" option on the bottom right.

    You don't need to apologize. We are just trying to help protect your game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archvaldor View Post
    Count -9 for tens and +4 for all other cards. That's a perfect insurance count.

    Forget about counting the other aspects of the game this is a very favorable situation. I'd need to know the game spread and likely heat to make an assessment as to which game was preferable.

    I agree with Moo that is in your interest to delete this thread. I imagine someone will help you out privately. The game is valuable if it as you describe-you should bear this in mind before sharing its location,
    Let me make a comment about the -9, +4 count. While it is a balanced level 2 count, where converting to TC is necessary before using it, it is preferable to use this other level 2 count (1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -2),
    where conversion to TC is not required, making it much simpler to handle. With this count, you would also have a perfect insurance count.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cacarulo View Post
    Let me make a comment about the -9, +4 count. While it is a balanced level 2 count, where converting to TC is necessary before using it, it is preferable to use this other level 2 count (1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -2),
    where conversion to TC is not required, making it much simpler to handle. With this count, you would also have a perfect insurance count.


    Sincerely,
    Cac
    Ty Cac that one is better, I knew it existed but couldn't remember the source of it and I wasn't sure how long the thread would be up.

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    It's not a really big deal. Just don't post a bunch of really specific information on a game like that. All you have to say is "I found a game where I can bet table max on insurance, is there an advantage?" Maybe include that there's a 1-40 spread between table min and max. Otherwise, people who travel a lot, and therefore know odd details like the table max of random Canadian charity games, may show up and destroy a game unnecessarily. It's also possible, although less likely, that a casino employee or even a game protection consultant like B ill Z ender might read your thread and call up his client and have them fix a game.
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    You're right. I already acknowledged my mistake.
    I would have deleted it but am still unable to find a way to delete my post. I'm signed in and hit edit post and I don't see the delete option.
    Again, i apologize for posting this.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadman376 View Post
    still unable to find a way to delete my post. I'm signed in and hit edit post and I don't see the delete option.
    Strange. I just tried it and clearly see a Delete rectangle second from the right.

    Don

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    I'm able to delete the last post I made, but not the original one. Is there a time limit in which you're able to delete and then it expires?

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    You can't delete the post at the start of a thread. You may be able to remove the text in the post. Or I can remove it if you wish.
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    I removed the text in the original post.

    Thank you everyone for your replies.

    It's nice to find a site where members are willing to help.

    Thanks again,
    -Steve

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