# Thread: Full RA-indices

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## Full RA-indices

Hello everyone,

I recently read the (half) chapter on risk-averse indices in BJA3 and am very intrigued.

On p. 375 the RA-Indices for the Catch 22 are given. Are there any full tables of RA-indices available?

If no, maybe someone could help me with the particular game for which I'd like to improve my approach for now:
S17, 3:2, 6D, ENHC, DoA, DAS, RSA, nHSA, ES10, no limit on splitting (yup). Pen is dealer dependent and averages 70%.

I want to transition from using the Sweet 16 (although 10v10, 11vA and 10vA are not applicable with ENHC, but 11v10 is, so...the formidable 14?) + Wong's ES-Indices (except v. A) to using all relevant indices from -3 to +8. I'd much prefer learning the RA-indices right away, if possible.

Also, since the topic isn't touched upon in BJA3: Are there different RA-indices for Surrender (be it late or early)? I would assume not, but I'd rather ask.

Thanks in advance,
oak

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Originally Posted by oak
Hello everyone,

I recently read the (half) chapter on risk-averse indices in BJA3 and am very intrigued.

On p. 375 the RA-Indices for the Catch 22 are given. Are there any full tables of RA-indices available?

If no, maybe someone could help me with the particular game for which I'd like to improve my approach for now:
S17, 3:2, 6D, ENHC, DoA, DAS, RSA, nHSA, ES10, no limit on splitting (yup). Pen is dealer dependent and averages 70%.

I want to transition from using the Sweet 16 (although 10v10, 11vA and 10vA are not applicable with ENHC, but 11v10 is, so...the formidable 14?) + Wong's ES-Indices (except v. A) to using all relevant indices from -3 to +8. I'd much prefer learning the RA-indices right away, if possible.

Also, since the topic isn't touched upon in BJA3: Are there different RA-indices for Surrender (be it late or early)? I would assume not, but I'd rather ask.

Thanks in advance,
oak
Hi oak,

The best way to obtain RA indices is through an index generator, such as CVData/CVIndex. My advice, however, is to always generate your own indices for the specific rules you'll be facing.
In the case of the rules you mentioned, I have all those indices in my booklet, which are also RA. But, of course, they are for CAC2 and not for Hi-Lo.

Sincerely,
Cac

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Hi Cac,

thanks for your reply. Getting CVData is definitely on my list! With my currently quite limited bankroll I was hoping to get an idea of how much I could improve my game with RAs before spending those extra 200\$.
I take it then that the full indices aren't published anywhere specifically?

oak

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moo, thank you! I appreciate it

Edit: Are those numbers floored or did you use another method?

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Floored

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A,6 vs 2 = 7 ?

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