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    @Dalmatian

    Some years back, I ran into a friend in Vegas, playing similar stakes to me. He was dressed like a slob. Mind you, it should be clarified that he looked like a clean slob. I still work 4-5 hours a week, mainly for shits and giggles and often appear as a (clean) slob. I sometimes show up at the casino dressed like - you guessed it - a clean slob.

    I also show up well dressed - how I show up is a matter of how the spirit moves me, but I’m always clean. In a couple of weeks, I’ll have lunch with a customer (ownership status), a local rep and her National Sales Director and I’ll show up in shorts and a nice sports shirt. The agenda is set - our out of town guest will be skinned, circumcised and my demands for remedies to deficiencies will be met - guaranteed - I have the natural persona to get away with it all.

    Now, reviewing your 3 prior posts, I glean the following. You sleep in your car then show up in hi limit wearing wrinkled Walmart specials, unwashed likely with hair greasy and unkempt, stained shirts from arm pit sweat and likely smelly - playing up to 2 x 600 questioning why the quick to back off sweat shops. I trust your portable power unit includes the ability to at least brush your teeth.

    I watched an hour long youtube Video a few months back of a real high end player travelling the country in a high end luxury RV with an apparent very significant bankroll, RV equipped with disguises and the whole 9 yards. If I was so inclined, I would bypass the RV route preferring to fly to various destinations, renting cars, staying in very decent accommodation for relaxing monthly 7-10 day trips (adequate rest and days off factored in), eat well and enjoy myself. I would insure adequate available funds to earn the suggested 100k you would make and with a totally different style if play.

    If only knew then what I know now, I could pick a specific local area with good games and no travel, play daily a paltry 2 x 90 or 100 and make that same 100k with no muss no fuss. The worlds greatest blackjack player needs to make some lifestyle decisions -80 hours a week for 2 weeks alternating with 2 week grinfpder trips - even earning your suggested 159k is no life.

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    As long as I’m thinking of it, though not related to the thread - you don’t necessarily need to rent a car (especially with car rental rates really on the rise) to get around a reasonable sized metro area. Last year, I flew to a city with 2 casinos. I took the hotels free airport shuttle and from there, Uber to one casino and to the next and back to the hotel. I’d already factored in the possibility of Uber to casino, return to hotel for nap apwith Uber to second city. The Uber app makes it easy to budget.

    Benefits
    1. No need to let the car warm up in very cold weather
    2. No liability for potential accidents
    3. Pricing not exceeding car rental rates - allowed $75/day for Uber - actual was less.

    Just thinking out loud.

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    I use halves, downgrade to hi low when brain is fried. I'm basically a mote advanced version of Zee, lol.

    BTW, whatever ahoped to Zee??

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    The QTC concept needs further explanation.

    You have previously stated that you use a modified Level 3 count and further benefit can be obtained by tracking and taking advantage of the remaining deck composition. As Hi-lo, one of the easiest and most common counts that uses only three tags it is clear that deck composition can vary wildly at any given running/ true count but the system works because the Hi-Lo true count closely corresponds with the actual (dis)advantage. To take this scenario and compare it with what a Level 3 count already produces requires simulation to quantify any additional benefit and that’s what’s missing. Empirical evidence is not enough – you may just have been lucky but a large simulation can be achieved quickly with a modern computer producing a win rate and SCORE that can then be compared with the results of your count system.

    In addition, to do all this with ramping variations, etc, almost extends to the limit of human capabilities and would need years of training to carry out successfully under the radar against many different rule sets in an actual casino environment.
    Casino Enemy No.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebuilder View Post
    The QTC concept needs further explanation.

    You have previously stated that you use a modified Level 3 count and further benefit can be obtained by tracking and taking advantage of the remaining deck composition. As Hi-lo, one of the easiest and most common counts that uses only three tags it is clear that deck composition can vary wildly at any given running/ true count but the system works because the Hi-Lo true count closely corresponds with the actual (dis)advantage. To take this scenario and compare it with what a Level 3 count already produces requires simulation to quantify any additional benefit and that’s what’s missing. Empirical evidence is not enough – you may just have been lucky but a large simulation can be achieved quickly with a modern computer producing a win rate and SCORE that can then be compared with the results of your count system.

    In addition, to do all this with ramping variations, etc, almost extends to the limit of human capabilities and would need years of training to carry out successfully under the radar against many different rule sets in an actual casino environment.
    The halves portion is not modified - it’s the add ons that give it extra oomph. The easy part are the ramping variations - hardwired into my brain and it’s automatic. For me, the difference between hi lo and halves are
    1. The slight difference between a marginal advantage and a marginal disadvantage
    2. The slight difference between a fair sized or max bet and super max bet
    3. The slight differences between everything in between

    Fine tuned by the toughest part of all - QTC including ASC. I correspond with a fellow who seems to have a better grasp than me on the intricacies of column type counts, excellent insights - In addition to varying ramps, the concept is also extended to index play.

    You’re right regarding empirical evidence - I simply don’t have the ability to provide additional data. I actually prefer at this point in time to avoid a lot of discussion on the topic - too much narrow minded thinking from some good minds who can’t seem to see the forest from the trees as well as Snarkish type commentary from others - and so, likely my last mention of the subject - I do appreciate your obvious sharp open mind.

    As far as rule sets go, I evaluate around the most common rule set I encounter. It’s easy enough to modify or even revert to standard type methods on different rule sets, and for that matter, losing my place on QTC.

    Two last comments - QTC can make your head explode on a shoe game - far easier at DD. I’ve commented in years gone by that I regard myself as an excellent shoe player and adequate at DD due to what I was weaned on, that being shoes. I regarded myself as adequate at DD, QTC has made me much stronger. Oh, game speed is affected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I watched an hour long youtube Video a few months back of a real high end player travelling the country in a high end luxury RV with an apparent very significant bankroll, RV equipped with disguises and the whole 9 yards.
    I'm interested to watch this, could you provide a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixar View Post
    I'm interested to watch this, could you provide a link?
    Enjoy

    https://youtu.be/nO6aPOkCt84

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    Converted my car into a stealth camper. Ripped out all the seats, installed a bed and water system and electric station for power. I live off fast food when i'm on the road. Don't shower in days, wear wrinkled walmart clothes to high limit. Card counting is literally the worst thing ever.

    I don't have a girlfriend.

    Keep a full extra 5 gallon GI can hidden in the trunk for $$$ states with D governors. Those players with the right cards for that particular casino franchise get us comped free rooms for two or three nights. I usually get into the buffet for free at least once a day, and the high roller gets us a comp for the steak house by the second day. Had to buy swim trunks at Walmart to use the pool at the casino hotel. Card counting is literally the best thing ever.

    My girlfriend says so.


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