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    Floating advantage

    In shuffle tracking, if a rich, positive count segment is cut from the back of the shoe to the front for betting off the top of the next shoe, can I include the floating advantage in assessing the positive count for betting?...and if so, how do I calculate the floating advantage??

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    No you won't. Bet the slug, period.

    My 2 cents... Why do people really feel the need to discuss tracking on open free boards ?
    You never heard of PM or emails with knowledgeable posters ???
    G Man

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    Floating advantage doesn't come into play. As G says, bet the slug. Bet is as if it is the entire shoe. That's all I'll add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G Man View Post
    No you won't. Bet the slug, period.

    My 2 cents... Why do people really feel the need to discuss tracking on open free boards ?
    You never heard of PM or emails with knowledgeable posters ???
    I have been guilty of this and other things I would of rather not posted. There isn't a PM option and people don't have their emails avaialble.
    You're right, but it not that easy. Well I guess aceside has his email avaialble and always has the answer for stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by G Man View Post
    My 2 cents... Why do people really feel the need to discuss tracking on open free boards ?
    You never heard of PM or emails with knowledgeable posters ???
    Probably because not to take up time with PMs Several people with different answers can answer on an open board.

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    True. But his point was that sensitive info is avoided in public. PM is available, but only to subscribers. This change was made when someone mass spammed using PMs.
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    I wouldn't discuss my methods of shuffle tracking here. This was just a curiosity thing re. floating advantage.

    Btw, my email is [email protected] anyone interested in discussing bj methodology.

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    I don't believe I am the only one who is unclear as to what most people on this forum consider sensitive information, other than specific casino locations that are currently vulnerable to legal Advantage Play exploitation. E.g., "Hey guys, I just left the Red Rock in Vegas, and there is a dealer there named Tom that always exposes his hole card! I just made $10,000,000,000!!" ????

    Is the reasoning behind this solely the most obvious reasoning: we don't want to burn the opportunity prematurely?

    What kind of other information should not be posted on this open forum?
    1) Information and questions about specific shuffletracking techniques and any other techniques we don't want casino personnel aware that we are using? And what constitutes "specific?"

    2) What else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill View Post
    I just left the Red Rock in Vegas, and there is a dealer there named Tom that always exposes his hole card!
    Overkill, his name was Joe and he works the 3rd shift, he is off Tuesdays and Thursdays though.

    Any time someone like Don publishes a book with great info to help our games, it goes to the bad guys as well. I spent all week reading through training material with references to I18, SCORE ratings of a game, camouflage betting, the big player etc.

    It was a little disgusting.

    Part of me wants to continue researching and hand all my collected data off to Norm or Don and get it published properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    Overkill, his name was Joe and he works the 3rd shift, he is off Tuesdays and Thursdays though.
    Lt. Frank Drebin : His real name was Joey Chicago.
    Ed Hocken : Oh, yeah. He fought under the name of Kid Minneapolis.
    Nordberg : I saw Kid Minneapolis fight once. In Cincinnati.
    Lt. Frank Drebin : No you're thinking of Kid New York. He fought out of Philly.
    Ed Hocken : He was killed in the ring in Houston. By Tex Colorado. You know, the Arizona Assassin.
    Nordberg : Yeah, from Dakota. I don't remember it was North or South.
    Lt. Frank Drebin : North. South Dakota was his brother. From West Virginia.

    That should clear it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill View Post
    I don't believe I am the only one who is unclear as to what most people on this forum consider sensitive information, other than specific casino locations that are currently vulnerable to legal Advantage Play exploitation. E.g., "Hey guys, I just left the Red Rock in Vegas, and there is a dealer there named Tom that always exposes his hole card! I just made $10,000,000,000!!" ????

    Is the reasoning behind this solely the most obvious reasoning: we don't want to burn the opportunity prematurely?
    The general reason is that people want to signal to others how they know all kinds of super-cool stuff and stop any one else posting super-cool stuff and establishing alpha male dominance. You get such people on literally every type of forum like this. If you are unwise to talk to them privately you almost always find they have some crappy little secret play they think is a strong play that their livelihood depends upon.

    I have seen literally nothing on these boards public or private which would be remotely interesting to any one in game protection, even if they actually lurked here, and assuming they have some kind of means of determining wheat from chaff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archvaldor View Post
    I have seen literally nothing on these boards public or private which would be remotely interesting to any one in game protection
    And we will keep it that way here. You have a point that many folks are oversensitive (at times by experience). And yes, many casinos have difficulty 'twixt wheat/chaff. Which, per sé, may be of value to APs. But, it is not all alpha-male nonsense. We do need to be careful in some areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archvaldor View Post
    The general reason is that people want to signal to others how they know all kinds of super-cool stuff and stop any one else posting super-cool stuff and establishing alpha male dominance. You get such people on literally every type of forum like this. If you are unwise to talk to them privately you almost always find they have some crappy little secret play they think is a strong play that their livelihood depends upon.

    I have seen literally nothing on these boards public or private which would be remotely interesting to any one in game protection, even if they actually lurked here, and assuming they have some kind of means of determining wheat from chaff.
    I was out playing...
    I simply hope (I wouldn't bet a $1) that you can understand what Norm wrote. However, feel free to post where you play, on what shift and what is your betting spread... if you ever placed a bet in your life!
    G Man

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