Baccarat egalite side bet

[Cacarulo]

I know that there are other group payouts apart from the individual ones: (0-9): {160, 70, 70, 70, 60, 60, 22, 22, 40, 40}
My calculations were made with the individual ones.

Cac

[Iwantmoney]

According to https://www.888casino.com/blog/side-...carat-side-bet

This trigger count occurs when 1.5 card target such as if you are buying 5 TC of 1.5 occurs.

According to Eliot with a trigger of HIS +6 or 7 which will be equal to your TC of 1.3 there is already an edge to trigger.

His post is very different from yours which has a trigger of + 3. Why is this so different?

Do not say if he is buying tie 5 one card 5 of his will give a plus 6 which will be equal to your TC 1, if it is one deck. So at a meagre 1.3 TC of yours Eliot will trigger and have an edge

Jacblacc911,

I ran a 10-million-shoe sim with an initial 52 cards cut off (following Eliot's procedure of burning additional cards determined by the first card and playing one additional round after the CC appears). Using Eliot's tags for the 0 tie bet but with a payout of 160:1 (I believe Eliot's tags were for a 150:1 payout), I got the following frequencies and EV's:

TC	Tie 0
	Play%	EV%
15	1.776%	52.170%
14	0.411%	31.625%
13	0.456%	27.825%
12	0.656%	24.062%
11	0.737%	21.093%
10	0.945%	18.513%
9	1.144%	14.182%
8	1.478%	11.935%
7	1.791%	10.339%
6	2.329%	7.371%
5	2.915%	4.922%
4	3.842%	2.260%
3	4.858%	0.330%
2	6.512%	-2.096%
1	8.577%	-4.356%
0	13.190%	-6.531%
-1	10.066%	-8.732%
-2	8.495%	-10.860%
-3	6.349%	-12.967%
-4	4.966%	-15.347%
-5	18.504%	-24.077%

Thus, betting the 0 tie for all TC's of +3 and up, you'll play the SB a bit over 23% of the time, with an average EV of 11.2%.

If instead you wait for a TC of +4 & up, you'll play nearly 18.5% of the rounds with an average EV of a bit over 14%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

Note: in the table, +15 means +15 and up, while -5 means -5 and below.

[Iwantmoney]

Okay to further clarify

ELIOT trigger of plus 7 for most of the ties is DOGHAND TC of 1.3. There is a big discrepancy since DOGHAND in his post list when it is TC of 2 it is still negative house edge. It is almost double too big to ignore

[Dog Hand]

Okay to further clarify

ELIOT trigger of plus 7 for most of the ties is DOGHAND TC of 1.3. There is a big discrepancy since DOGHAND in his post list when it is TC of 2 it is still negative house edge. It is almost double too big to ignore

Iwantmoney,

I used Eliot's tags for the 0 tie wager, so my TC is the same as his. Thus, I don't understand why you say "ELIOT trigger of plus 7 for most of the ties is DOGHAND TC of 1.3."

The reason why my trigger is much lower than Eliot's is because Eliot was simming a 150:1 payout, while Jacblacc911 asked specifically for a 160:1 payout.

Dog Hand

[Iwantmoney]

Can you be sure on this? Then his TC is 4 to 7 Mostly 7. It seems impossible to lower TC of 7 to 3 just by increasing payout of ONLY 0 by 10 percent