Is it worth?!, help for a newbie (europe)

[jiniswei]

im getting lost in all the terminology anyways i watched players who actually bet on the side bets for online casino but i read that we shouldnt do it

[Archvaldor]

Hello Forum!
— Here is my first post so please bear with me —

New to the world of AP and eager to learn. Behind me, I have JUST 100h of practice and probably 50h of game at the tables. My current Bankroll is rather modest….

Just since you mentioned your modest bank-ES 10 does help with the randomness of the game. Especially when counting.

[G Man]

Greetings dear Don and Dave, I acquired your new masterpiece The Hi-Lo Card Counting System: A Complete Guide to Index Play, wonderful work of art. I have a question, the rules of the casino where I go are fabulous 6D, S17, DAS, RSA, SPL3 OBBO, No peek and a great ES10, a godsend. And should I continue to use, as I always have, table 51.1? which is for ES10 ENHC despite the fact that where I play does not have ENHC, it is rather OBBO, as previously mentioned. Thank you very much in advance.

Here's an answer.
If the dealer is only taking original and busted bet, this game is played exactly like a regular american game where the dealer takes a hole card.
So the tables you should use are numbers 1.3 and 51.1 for all surrender hands vs 10
Simply said, you are going to use all the index in 1.3 but will replace the surrendering index by those in table 51.1 when facing a possible surrender situation against a 10

[Softhony]

Here's an answer.
If the dealer is only taking original and busted bet, this game is played exactly like a regular american game where the dealer takes a hole card.
So the tables you should use are numbers 1.3 and 51.1 for all surrender hands vs 10
Simply said, you are going to use all the index in 1.3 but will replace the surrendering index by those in table 51.1 when facing a possible surrender situation against a 10

Thank you very much G Man for your prompt response. Great, it's exactly how I've always done it, with table 1.3 and 51.1, except when I saw the 51.1 ES ENHC label recently I was overcome with doubts. In the casinos in my city, the dealer does deal the second hole card, but he doesn't look to see if he has blackjack, he OBBOs, and of course I understand that it has approximately the same effect.

Only recently I was overcome by doubts, since the effect of ENHC is not so much due to the dealer giving the hole card or not dealing it to himself, as in Europe, but rather the impact of ENCH is because It carries all the bets on the table, splits, doubles, busts and originals. My only confusion was that maybe that 51.1 ES wasn't the one for me, because we don't use ENHC in my city.

Thanks again G Man for clarifying my doubt.

[Gronbog]

Thanks G Man for answering.

[Softhony]

Thanks G Man for answering.

Thank you Gronbog for the great literary work you did this year together with Don, It has truly helped me improve my game.

[Gronbog]

Thanks! We're glad you found it helpful.

[TranquilloMancini]

Good thread! Found the answers

[Softhony]

Here's an answer.
If the dealer is only taking original and busted bet, this game is played exactly like a regular american game where the dealer takes a hole card.
So the tables you should use are numbers 1.3 and 51.1 for all surrender hands vs 10
Simply said, you are going to use all the index in 1.3 but will replace the surrendering index by those in table 51.1 when facing a possible surrender situation against a 10

Dear G. Man, a query. Does this mean that I would have to use tables 8.x, 16.x and 24.x combined with ES10 from tables 52.x, 53.x and 54.x? Use the tables 9.x, 17.x and 25.x combined with ES10 from tables 52.x, 53.x and 54.x? o Only all the indices of tables 52.x, 53.x and 54.x regardless of whether they are for ENHC?

My rules: 6D, S17, DAS, RSA, SPL3, OBBO, No peek and ES10.

[aceside]

My rules: 6D, S17, DAS, RSA, SPL3, OBBO, No peek and ES10.

It has been mentioned here some times, but the definition of OBBO is still not clear to me. If the dealer gets a blackjack after the player splits a pair and busts all of them, will the player lose both busted hands?

[Freightman]

It has been mentioned here some times, but the definition of OBBO is still not clear to me. If the dealer gets a blackjack after the player splits a pair and busts all of them, will the player lose both busted hands?

No

[G Man]

Dear G. Man, a query. Does this mean that I would have to use tables 8.x, 16.x and 24.x combined with ES10 from tables 52.x, 53.x and 54.x? Use the tables 9.x, 17.x and 25.x combined with ES10 from tables 52.x, 53.x and 54.x? o Only all the indices of tables 52.x, 53.x and 54.x regardless of whether they are for ENHC?

My rules: 6D, S17, DAS, RSA, SPL3, OBBO, No peek and ES10.

It's not practical nor desirable to learn every nuances you mentioned. Choose an index order that fits the most the conditions you are usuallly encountering and use the index from the tables mentioned in my previous post.

[aceside]

No

According to Norm qfit, though.
Original Bets & Busted Only – OBBO means that if you split, the original bet will always be lost and the split hand will be lost if it busts. Double down bets are not lost.