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    Hey Y'all,

    Does anyone have the low-down on Oklahoma for blackjack? What I find concerning is the following statement:

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    (From "CBJN")

    Oklahoma casinos usually charge a "collection" (ante) on every hand, making games unplayable for many.
    Some Oklahoma casinos waive the ante in exchange for the patron obtaining and using a player's card, and
    some have ante-free days or ante-free hours during certain days that are constantly changing.

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    It does say some casinos do not charge the ante. How many precisely? Are the bigger casinos like Winstar World, Hard Rock Tulsa, River Spirit Tulsa, and Downstream more friendly at waving the ante?

    Further, I am trying to get mid to heavy black chip action (2x500-2x700) down. Is this possible there? Or would they only tolerate a much lower spread?

    I also noticed that a lot of the minimums there are very low (2$ and 5$ mins). Is this because of the ante charge and to not piss of patrons even more?

    I have a solid understanding of the basic vulture AP slot plays, so this is something I can do as well to generate EV in case I find unplayable blackjack at a particular casino.

    I will gladly exchange information with anyone interested, contact me @ [email protected]

    Regards,

    Dalmatian

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    Dalmatian,

    Most of the OK casinos charge an ante most of the time, which means that some of the time most of them have "ante-free" days or times. Some of the OK casinos never charge an ante (Downstream does not, if you use a players card), while the rest always charge an ante (including WinStar, the last time I was there).

    If you check the casino website, you'll generally see their AF days or times. I used to play a small chain of casinos, where this one would be AF on Mondays and Thursdays, while that one would be AF on Tuesdays and Fridays.

    Other casinos instead have AF times, like weekday mornings from 8-noon.

    Hope this helps!

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    Choctaw in Calera, OK and Winstar in Thackerville NEVER waive the ante. Too close to the idiot Texans. Choctaw now has $15 minimum. Winstar was all CSM last time I checked. Bottom line, don't bother with either of these specific joints close to the Texas border.
    And I live in Texas, minutes from the state line.
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    MJ Golf lives in Oklahoma and has good insight as to the BJ ops there.....
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    Osage in Tulsa had no ante days on Wed and Sunday last I knew. The best bj you can get around the area is Buffalo Run in Miami, ok. 2d/h17/ waived ante for using players card, but last I checked the tolerance was crap with practically any bet at or over $100 drawing surveillance. Not as bad as El Cortez but pretty close.
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