To show or not to show ID?

**TCteachercounter** · 12-19-2022, 08:39 AM

Sorry if this has been beaten to death already.

I’m a guy who’s blessed (or cursed?) with a baby face. I still look fairly young despite being in my 30’s. I have a lot of casino employees always asking for my ID. Personally I don’t think I look younger than 21, but I’ve had so many excuses for them wanting it, ranging from “you’re so young! That’s lucky for you but we’re going to have to see your ID” to “we get teenage kids coming down from their parents’ rooms in the casino all the time that try to play so we’re going to need to see your ID.” (I didn’t buy that one or give it up then)

I made some odd plays the other day as well as ramping up and down with the count, and upon leaving up in chips as I went to the cage they asked for my ID. I use a 1:8 spread (I’ve simmed it in CVCX and have roughly 1.274% edge with their rule set) but there were some funky plays that ploppies don’t normally play. I didn’t quite know how to handle giving up or not giving up ID- she said it’s just because I look young- so I caved and she put it in a scanner. I tend to cave to these requests because ploppies do and I don’t want to draw attention to myself, but in retrospect I think this was a terrible idea. I’m thinking I will avoid this particular place for a long time until this blows over, which sucks because they have nice rules and amazing pen.

If you were in the same instance, how would you handle this? I’m thinking in the future just avoid the cage entirely after play since this is a local casino, and wait to cash later or have my spouse cash it, but what are some other canned responses I could use or excuses/counter arguments to not have my ID taken when I suspect they’re up to no good with it?

**Jabberwocky** · 12-19-2022, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by TCteachercounter

Sorry if this has been beaten to death already.

I’m a guy who’s blessed (or cursed?) with a baby face. I still look fairly young despite being in my 30’s. I have a lot of casino employees always asking for my ID. Personally I don’t think I look younger than 21, but I’ve had so many excuses for them wanting it, ranging from “you’re so young! That’s lucky for you but we’re going to have to see your ID” to “we get teenage kids coming down from their parents’ rooms in the casino all the time that try to play so we’re going to need to see your ID.” (I didn’t buy that one or give it up then)

I made some odd plays the other day as well as ramping up and down with the count, and upon leaving up in chips as I went to the cage they asked for my ID. I use a 1:8 spread (I’ve simmed it in CVCX and have roughly 1.274% edge with their rule set) but there were some funky plays that ploppies don’t normally play. I didn’t quite know how to handle giving up or not giving up ID- she said it’s just because I look young- so I caved and she put it in a scanner. I tend to cave to these requests because ploppies do and I don’t want to draw attention to myself, but in retrospect I think this was a terrible idea. I’m thinking I will avoid this particular place for a long time until this blows over, which sucks because they have nice rules and amazing pen.

If you were in the same instance, how would you handle this? I’m thinking in the future just avoid the cage entirely after play since this is a local casino, and wait to cash later or have my spouse cash it, but what are some other canned responses I could use or excuses/counter arguments to not have my ID taken when I suspect they’re up to no good with it?

Ask them "Show me the fricken law!" "Where's the law that requires me to produce ID to effect a cash out? You can't produce one because it doesn't exist so stop stalling and cough up the cake!" But if this is a native store, then you're on your own.

**Norm** · 12-19-2022, 10:49 AM

There are obviously laws to ask for id if someone looks young in every state. Indeed, if a casino allows an underage person to play without asking for id, the casino can be fined.

**21forme** · 12-19-2022, 10:53 AM

ANother option is hold onto the chips and come back another day to cash them out.

**Zach Black** · 12-19-2022, 03:58 PM

When I get a request for ID, " the ID is in the car" is my response. I look old, so that the only time I get a request for ID at the cage is when the cash out is too large .

Saving the chips for your next visit is another option, especially if you had any heat.

**TCteachercounter** · 12-19-2022, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky

Ask them "Show me the fricken law!" "Where's the law that requires me to produce ID to effect a cash out? You can't produce one because it doesn't exist so stop stalling and cough up the cake!" But if this is a native store, then you're on your own.

Yep. Indian casinos are all I’ve got locally.

**Norm** · 12-19-2022, 05:12 PM

There is no easy answer that I've run across and think this needs more study. Lowering your voice an octave helps. Manner of dress might matter. Presentation -- humor, openness, confidence, smile help. Anything that makes the person comfortable with you. Some hint that you have been there or elsewhere before. I wonder if producing a passport is better than a license.