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    What's the standard procedure for card counters to cash out chips at far casinos?

    Let's say you make a trip somewhere far away, and you're probably not coming back in a long time.

    What's the normal procedure of cashing out chips without getting ID'd and databased? I'm currently not databased and want to stay that way.

    "Cash them out in increments" - I'm not sure how well that'd work at far away casinos. I can see it working at local casinos where you can visit every day. But are you really going to wait 12 hours to cash out a mesely $900 during the opposite cashier shift?


    Especially, how do you cash out without getting ID'd if you just got backed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Putin View Post
    Let's say you make a trip somewhere far away, and you're probably not coming back in a long time.

    What's the normal procedure of cashing out chips without getting ID'd and databased? I'm currently not databased and want to stay that way.

    "Cash them out in increments" - I'm not sure how well that'd work at far away casinos. I can see it working at local casinos where you can visit every day. But are you really going to wait 12 hours to cash out a mesely $900 during the opposite cashier shift?


    Especially, how do you cash out without getting ID'd if you just got backed off.
    Some ideas that have all worked for me:

    Save the chips for the next time you make the trip.

    Trade or sell them to a local AP.

    For a large casino, cash out some with a different cashier (poker room, for example).

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    Plan on going in on your last day, on a different shift, and limit your chip cashing to less than $1300 or thereabouts. Different places have different thresholds for ID, so you may have to start with smaller amounts. Have a friend cash a batch of chips for you if you don't want to show your face. After a session, don't color up at a table for any yellow/orange chips (stick with Black or Purple as your highest denomination). Cashing a $1000 chip may prompt a request for an ID or Player's card.

    Nothing wrong with holding on to them till your next trip unless you need to keep the funds liquid. Need to keep your eyes out for notifications that a store is retiring their chips and replacing them with new ones. They'll set a date after which you can't cash in the old chips.
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    Some casinos now are requiring ID at the cage for any amount you want to cash in. I had to send my friend to cash the chips in order to hide my ID. 5:6 Blackjack and requiring ID at the cage are making the life of AP players miserable.

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    I wonder sometimes whether it is legal for a casino cage to withhold paying a player who refuses to show ID. Is there any lawyer in this forum who can help with the answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tex View Post
    I wonder sometimes whether it is legal for a casino cage to withhold paying a player who refuses to show ID. Is there any lawyer in this forum who can help with the answer?

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    Kind of irrelevant isn’t it? If anonymity is essential to you, then the day you start quoting lawyers and arguing with Helen at the cage, you become very noticeable and memorable. If you know they’ll ask for ID, plan for that. If you don’t know, say “aww crap, left it in my car”, and then go plan for it.

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    I've used the US Postal Service to mail a very small amount of chips, and then the Tropicana mailed me a check. But this was about 5 years ago.

    Could you do this in, say, $80 or so increments per mailing?

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    Isn't cashing chips in increments illegal? Called structuring in the USA. If you break up $10,000 (ctr threshold) for whatever reason, you're money laundering. I'm not certain, but have seen this warning in other AP circles.

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