Hacking online live casinos

[hwjman]

http://www.bewersdorff-online.de/black-jack/

this website might help what you need

[Shchmax]

http://www.bewersdorff-online.de/black-jack/

this website might help what you need

Hey, that's exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you very much, sir, and have a nice day!

[Gramazeka]

https://makaobet.com/en/

This is my friend's casino. I can help with any questions.

[Iwantmoney]

Someone who has a higher diploma in CS is able to develope a simple program and even then if it gets too complicated he may not be able to. What level of computing do you estimate to be able to develop a program able to read the casino software input, compute and give back its output automatically? Knowing someone who has only higher diploma is unable to develope this, how high a knowledge and skills do you need?

Secondly about specifics of the bum. Just say you feed 500Initial capital to each account and when it reaches 10K USD you withdraw 3k. He runs off. Is there any way to get the remaining 7kUSD back when the bank account and casino account is in his name? What to do to get back this 7k?

Well, as soon as this bum runs away - obviously he also stops getting paid by me. Also this local bum could be my relative. But you've made your point, such risks really should be taken into account.

[Shchmax]

Someone who has a higher diploma in CS is able to develope a simple program and even then if it gets too complicated he may not be able to. What level of computing do you estimate to be able to develop a program able to read the casino software input, compute and give back its output automatically? Knowing someone who has only higher diploma is unable to develope this, how high a knowledge and skills do you need?

Secondly about specifics of the bum. Just say you feed 500Initial capital to each account and when it reaches 10K USD you withdraw 3k. He runs off. Is there any way to get the remaining 7kUSD back when the bank account and casino account is in his name? What to do to get back this 7k?

I don't have a degree in CS, almost everything I know about programming I've learned myself. But I do have a masters degree in mechanical engineering, so do I have some general problem solving skills. I'm just setting my aim and then looking for ways to achieve it. From "how could be card counting automated?" I came to "online casinos must somehow get information about cards in play" - and started looking into the websites structure. Then I've found the information streams trough so called websockets. From "how can I connect to the websocket?" by trying different things I've came to a conclusion, that I should learn more about web integration, and then was able to build a program that connects to the websocket. Then I had a necessity to write part of program that counts cards and did the same as before - first studied about how it could be done, then implemented it. And so on.
So it's more about finding a proper tool for your needs. Knowledge and skills facilitate the process, but it's not necessary to have it at start, you'll learn everything by doing.
I personally came to using Mulesoft for work with websocket connections as it is quite easy to learn and it is mostly visual programming tool with just a little of regular coding; java - to write backend processing of card counts; now studying html and java-script to build a cozy interface.


Speaking of bum - just take measures from letting him run away. E.g. make him an account in a bank that does not work with cash and keep all the authentication means to yourself. Literally you can agree with him, that he'll give you all of his documents, while you will be paying him weekly for this. And if he runs away, - well, think of what you could have done some other way and try again later. But, of course, try not to break laws too much. It hurts.

https://makaobet.com/en/

This is my friend's casino. I can help with any questions.

I wonder how much do Evolution services cost? May be it would make sense to pay them if it will allow to count cards without using some creepy stalker bot, but having a direct access to the info.

[Iwantmoney]

Okay Mulesoft for websocket and Java and JavaScript for program in total how much time to complete the whole program able to take on 30 websites? And can you do it on one single laptop?

A plan in advanced for dealing with the 7k left in casino is good as then you can take countermeasures IN ADVANCED. You have? Say if you plan to have him force it out, you can IN ADVANCED tell him to write a note to credit an online anonymous payment such as bit coin, just for example. Online casinos frequently have multiple payment platform

I don't have a degree in CS, almost everything I know about programming I've learned myself. But I do have a masters degree in mechanical engineering, so do I have some general problem solving skills. I'm just setting my aim and then looking for ways to achieve it. From "how could be card counting automated?" I came to "online casinos must somehow get information about cards in play" - and started looking into the websites structure. Then I've found the information streams trough so called websockets. From "how can I connect to the websocket?" by trying different things I've came to a conclusion, that I should learn more about web integration, and then was able to build a program that connects to the websocket. Then I had a necessity to write part of program that counts cards and did the same as before - first studied about how it could be done, then implemented it. And so on.
So it's more about finding a proper tool for your needs. Knowledge and skills facilitate the process, but it's not necessary to have it at start, you'll learn everything by doing.
I personally came to using Mulesoft for work with websocket connections as it is quite easy to learn and it is mostly visual programming tool with just a little of regular coding; java - to write backend processing of card counts; now studying html and java-script to build a cozy interface.


Speaking of bum - just take measures from letting him run away. E.g. make him an account in a bank that does not work with cash and keep all the authentication means to yourself. Literally you can agree with him, that he'll give you all of his documents, while you will be paying him weekly for this. And if he runs away, - well, think of what you could have done some other way and try again later. But, of course, try not to break laws too much. It hurts.



I wonder how much do Evolution services cost? May be it would make sense to pay them if it will allow to count cards without using some creepy stalker bot, but having a direct access to the info.

[Archvaldor]

Hello world.

I’m quite new to the game of blackjack itself, not to mention card counting and other means of advantage play, but for now I’m near to a state of maniacal possession by the very idea of trying to squeeze as much as I can from it.

At the moment I’ve read Wongs’ “Professional Blackjack”, got inspired and wrote a program to automatically track around 30 online live dealer tables using the Halves strategy. As my computer is not so cognitively constrained opposed to regular human beings, instead of further using of comparatively simple strategy I am planning to implement an actual calculation of expected return, chance of win, optimal bet size etc. before each hand based on cards remaining in shoe.

So I inquire you fellow counters, would you guide me to what I should consider getting acquainted to before doing this? Any advice or recommendations on math behind blackjack probabilities, advantage play, bankroll management or whatever best practices?

Also, discussion on online live casinos and their specific vulnerabilities can be started from here I believe.

Thank you for your replies in advance.

Did you calculate your expected gain? Most live internet games have terrible penetration. Most of the time the count is not positive. When it is, it will be less than 1%.


Also: counting 20 tables or so manually is not that hard given the pace of play online. I have used simple strategies to multi-table 20+ games of online poker. So I'm
not sure how your automation is going to help that much.

I'd have thought you could make more money with the same programming skills and processing power doing something else.

[Archvaldor]

You can't sit there and watch an online blackjack game. If you sit out more than two hands you are kicked out for not playing, and your seat becomes available for someone else. To top matters off just about every 20 minutes to half hour you are disconnected and have to sign back in. If you are in the middle of a hand the default rules will apply, and you are screwed.

There's no generic online blackjack game. Each casino or casino franchise will have different rules.

[LoKee]

I've seen it done before. It was cool but at the time I didnt really know how to do true count so I was basically risking heavy at true 1 and lost my small bankroll.
It is possible. Wish I could find guy and get the software again.

[LoKee]

Shchmax I know who can help you with that as he has already done what your talking about. Is there a way you can DM me ? I think I can connect they two of you.
I'm not really sure how this message board works for direct messaging but I know he can show you what to do.

[Iwantmoney]

This is such a useful thread it should not die, continuing,

How long you took to learn Mulesoft and websocket? How long to program a program with it?

Many countries still prohibit online gaming, not sure what’s going on in USA with the wire act but it is illegal in China Vietnam Thailand Malaysia and Korea. People have been imprisoned for it. So you need to be a digital nomad?

Is VPN needed? To connect to your 30 accounts one single internet connection suffices or do you need 30? How to get so many in that case?

[Zabut]

Problems in Internet casinos, especialy ones with Evolution Lobbies:
1) Windrawing money, you have to choose trustworthy casino, even then you need post some post at public to get your money, sometimes there is even quite big transfer fee, that ok for normal gambler but for AP player, thats another cost. Also If CASINO saw, that you played more than 4 games at same time, thats decent ground of making accusation of using a bots, and they usually love to make up anything to not pay your money. (for examples see https://www.askgamblers.com/)
2) EV per Hour : 8 Deck, SHuffle card about at 180th card from 416. 0,62% house edge. That would be horrible stats for normal AP, even BOT will have quite problem to find decend advantage.
3) RISK: The low EV leads into another monster, wich is variation, you would have quite big CoR (chance of Ruin), that would mean , so to able reach decent %of risk, you need to have QUITE HIGH BANKROLL.
4) Accesibility in your contry: Most countries , BANed casino with Evolution providers, finding BUM and windrawing tens of thousands euros trough them (because that ammount of money you will need to have decent risk), is quite chore and adrenaline.

So think carefully before this.
Also, Shchmax, PM me(I m subscriber, should be possible)

P.S: Should be renamed this tread, this is quite clickbait

[alikmetalik]

I don't have a degree in CS, almost everything I know about programming I've learned myself. But I do have a masters degree in mechanical engineering, so do I have some general problem solving skills. I'm just setting my aim and then looking for ways to achieve it. From "how could be card counting automated?" I came to "online casinos must somehow get information about cards in play" - and started looking into the websites structure. Then I've found the information streams trough so called websockets. From "how can I connect to the websocket?" by trying different things I've came to a conclusion, that I should learn more about web integration, and then was able to build a program that connects to the websocket. Then I had a necessity to write part of program that counts cards and did the same as before - first studied about how it could be done, then implemented it. And so on.
So it's more about finding a proper tool for your needs. Knowledge and skills facilitate the process, but it's not necessary to have it at start, you'll learn everything by doing.
I personally came to using Mulesoft for work with websocket connections as it is quite easy to learn and it is mostly visual programming tool with just a little of regular coding; java - to write backend processing of card counts; now studying html and java-script to build a cozy interface.

Shchmax. Accept my friend request would like to talk about this more in the dm's. maybe we can find a nice price for you sharing your proprietary software.