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    Spreads and heat

    Hi all,

    It would be great to hear what spreads people use comfortably vs what starts to attract heat. I'm currently playing low stakes <$10 min bet and I'm interested to hear what kind of spreads are 'safe' to apply without attracting too much attention and what might be seen as asking for trouble.

    It may be that I'm on such low stakes that I needn't worry too much about high spreads for the moment, but I don't have the necessary experience to back that up and I could do with some insight on what a typical low/medium/high spread looks like. Right now, my perception is that a 1-12 spread feels high when I'm sitting at the table, but other people might think it's still very natural looking.

    Furthermore, do jumps in spreads (i.e. going from 1 unit at TC 1 to 5 units at TC 2) attract more heat than having more gradual increments and decrements with each TC as they are simulated in CVCX?

    Interested in thoughts and experiences.

    Kind Regards

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    Depends on the location of the games. I played some Double Deck games in the winter in Vegas Spreading (Starting with red chips) 1-8 and 1-12 and I got backed off in 3 different spots. In each case it took about 30 minutes and I was backed off. I played in the summer spreading 1-5 and had no problems. Seems like Vegas in very quick to back people off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GcBlackjack View Post
    Depends on the location of the games. I played some Double Deck games in the winter in Vegas Spreading (Starting with red chips) 1-8 and 1-12 and I got backed off in 3 different spots. In each case it took about 30 minutes and I was backed off. I played in the summer spreading 1-5 and had no problems. Seems like Vegas in very quick to back people off.
    Interesting, thanks.

    Are red chips worth $5 in Vegas? (I'm still getting to grips with the lingo)

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    Yes, a red chip is $5
    G Man

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    Yes Red $5 Green $25 Black $100

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    One idea for you that will help to get a general idea of the bet spreads you want to use is to use CVCX and work backwards by adjusting your bet spreads to get a 1% overall advantage for your specified game. Advantages greater than 1.5% might be perceived by a casino as being too greedy and could get you heated up. Advantages less than 0.5% usually aren't worth playing for most players.

    If you're a red chip player jumping your bets should be OK. After you've lost a hand, you can jump your bet by acting like you're trying to get your money back. After you've won a hand, you can jump your bet acting like you're trying to let the winnings ride. Jumping your bet after a push sometimes looks weird.

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