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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    I just read the OP, because, honestly some people who reply here don't have a clue.

    There was a time (at least a decade ago) when "listening" to the CSM was possible and was used to beat the machines. The preferred game was Casino War, though other games may also have been vulnerable. If the team happened to find very old CSM's, this could very well be what is going down -- you could definitely track specific cards through the machine. My sense is that another thing to look for (if this is overseas) is a "split for less" team. This is very popular right now in certain Asian locations.
    I feel the trick is on the match-the-dealer side bet, but I don’t know how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    direct knowledge of specific instances from the surveillance side.
    Knowing what surveillance knows (or what they think they know), can be key in beating the game.

    Here in Macau they waste little time on a proper investigation. It is very simple. A player that
    A) plays a wide spread.
    B) plays at least 99% basic strategy.
    C) wins.
    D) is known to be an AP.
    If 3 out of 4 have been confirmed, he (or she) will be banned, instead of what these fvckers should do, which is contact SG Gaming and ask them how come certain players can win?!

    P.S. I never gave casinos that golden advice.

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    Do they even believe 126 is beatable? There’s a reason they invest 10k into these 126 isn’t there

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    Well, there was a reason. Doesn't mean it was a good reason.
    "I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse

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    They bought to thwart counting and shuffle cheating. But after it spending so much will they still constantly keep watch for APs when it is to thwart?

    They watch behaviour more I think which alerts them rather than spreads or BS or wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Well, there was a reason. Doesn't mean it was a good reason.
    BINGO!

    It is in the interest of table games, security, surveillance and last but not least the legal team that there is such a thing as advantage play(ers) in order for them to keep their jobs. So who do these guys rip off the most: The owners/shareholders! Not that I have any sympathy for them either, but what it all tells you is that the money that is being made through AP (especially in Macau) is far less than what is needed to avoid it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    Do they even believe 126 is beatable? There’s a reason they invest 10k into these 126 isn’t there
    If they do, logically spoken, who is the first you would contact?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Well, there was a reason. Doesn't mean it was a good reason.
    Yes, one2six is beatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    What put small cards in the bank?
    Algorithm did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    Yes, one2six is beatable.
    The sound? Buffer? Glitches?

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