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    Team beating the CSM

    Hello, I have seen for two weeks at the casino a team playing very strangely on the CSM One2six. They manage to put small cards in the bank very often. I studied a bit, and I deduced that they were listening to the mechanism of the CSM. As soon as there was a round in play with a lot of low cards, after the dealer put the cards back into the CSM, they listened to the machine to know when the cards would come back. Apparently the cards return to a specific position in each compartment (at the very beginning, or at the very end), and they manage to identify the position and put the card in the bank. Do any of you know anything about this? I'm very interested in it, and this team has won a lot.
    During the sessions I observed, they managed to put a 2 3 4 5 or 6 in the bank more than 50% of the time! It was amazing. they don't play every hand and they wait for the right moment to bet

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    Unless they have stupidly changed the software, no two consecutive discards go in the same slot.

    I'm not saying the machine is unbeatable. The original software was.
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    Would you pm me about what are the model of the CSM? and where is the casino?

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    I'm not talking about two consecutive cards in the same slot. I'm talking that each card is going to be inserted at the end of a slot, and the team is able to listen to the machine to identify when the last card in the slot is going to arrive based on the buffer size , and this card has a high probability of being a card reinserted into the machine in the previous round (logical). This team has completely killed the casino and is able to give to the bank the last card of a slot

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    This one http://www.thetpro.com/poker/one2six/ . I don't want to say where it was sorry

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    Yes, you'll find inside pictures here: https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/album.php?albumid=8

    But, I'm not understanding. A card will not be replayed soon. The device does not use a slot until it contains a certain number of cards. If they are trying to track the cards by sound, that would be incredibly difficult. Also, the machine could easily be programmed to avoid this, although I tend to doubt they would have done this. .
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    4 decks or 6 ? Both can be beaten in different ways.

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    The CSM One2six shuffle machines handle one deck only, I guess. For machines handling 6-deck shoes, I found it is possible to beat them when there are six players at the same table to use up a lot of cards in one round so that the remaining deck of the shoe is predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    The CSM One2six shuffle machines handle one deck only, I guess.
    Why would you think they call it a One2Six?
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    I played a lot ultimate Hold’Em poker, and they used this machine to shuffle one deck at a time but can shuffle another one deck simultaneously. That is what I think. I am trying to confirm this.

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