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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    Do they even believe 126 is beatable? There’s a reason they invest 10k into these 126 isn’t there
    If they do, logically spoken, who is the first you would contact?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Well, there was a reason. Doesn't mean it was a good reason.
    Yes, one2six is beatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    What put small cards in the bank?
    Algorithm did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    Yes, one2six is beatable.
    The sound? Buffer? Glitches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    The sound? Buffer? Glitches?
    The sound is an indicator, not a factor.
    (but it is important for the last 2 model)

    Buffer, inside the algorithm

    Glitches, no need for one method, need them for another method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    The sound is an indicator, not a factor.
    (but it is important for the last 2 model)

    Buffer, inside the algorithm

    Glitches, no need for one method, need them for another method.
    This is nice coded since it does not reveal. However if I, or other counters use only the Buffer cards in front, plus discards it is not exactly beatable is it, since penetration is negligible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    This is nice coded since it does not reveal. However if I, or other counters use only the Buffer cards in front, plus discards it is not exactly beatable is it, since penetration is negligible
    Depends on your beatable means.
    Buffer cards, plus some counting method, can make it similar to 1 deck penetration.
    CSM tracking, about 1%~2% +EV, ten bets per hour.
    That is not for the newest model.

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    CSMs are so easily beatable, I'm surprised casinos haven't pulled them all out by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    CSMs are so easily beatable, I'm surprised casinos haven't pulled them all out by now.
    I wish all blackjack games were CSM's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    CSMs are so easily beatable, I'm surprised casinos haven't pulled them all out by now.
    Macau casinos all replaced by the new model, cost usd30,000+ each

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    Newest model can track? What is the front loader buffer size of newest model?

    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    Depends on your beatable means.
    Buffer cards, plus some counting method, can make it similar to 1 deck penetration.
    CSM tracking, about 1%~2% +EV, ten bets per hour.
    That is not for the newest model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    The machine sound effect is legit.
    Sequence card @6 decks csm is legit.
    Card-counting @4decks csm is legit
    Basic strategy +e.v @csm with sur A and Xtra doubling is legit.
    What is sur A and Xtra doubling ? Can you clarify?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    Depends on your beatable means.
    Buffer cards, plus some counting method, can make it similar to 1 deck penetration.
    CSM tracking, about 1%~2% +EV, ten bets per hour.
    That is not for the newest model.
    Worth adding that constant 1 deck penetration is much better than a hand-shuffled game with 1 deck pen. Every bet is made at the deepest 1/6 level.

    Additionally if you can exert some control over the speed with which cards are redistributed, that is very exploitable. For example if a bunch of small cards have been dealt recently you won't be in any rush to make them available for play.

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