Split 4,4 Against Dealer 6 or Double Down

[MercySakesAlive]

I always forgot the order of operations on this play.

My notes suggest that this is the correct order of decisions. Is this correct? Thank you.

Scenario with low count:
Player has 4,4
Dealer has 6
Count is below the index
Player should split the 4,4

Scenario with high count:
Player has 4,4
Dealer has 6
Count is above the index
Player should double down on the 4,4

[Marvin]

Split if DAS, hit or double if nDAS.

[MercySakesAlive]

Ah, okay, looks like I had it wrong.

If DAS then SPLIT.

If No DAS then DD if > Index and HIT if < Index

Thanks

[Marvin]

Just for completeness, if DAS then hit if the index is low enough.

[MercySakesAlive]

Just for completeness, if DAS then hit if the index is low enough.

OK gotcha. I'm playing a version of ReKO so I might not get to that level of detail.

[bejammin075]

OK gotcha. I'm playing a version of ReKO so I might not get to that level of detail.

Your first post has it backwards. If below the index, you hit. If above the index, you split. If you are above the TC to split, you can go with split and you can't go too wrong. At a very high TC, the double option starts to catch up in EV.

[aceside]

Your first post has it backwards. If below the index, you hit. If above the index, you split. If you are above the TC to split, you can go with split and you can't go too wrong. At a very high TC, the double option starts to catch up in EV.

This hand 4,4 vs 6 strongly depends on if it is hit-17 or stand-17. Either case, I've never used any index for doubling down on this hand. Is there such a thing?

[Gramazeka]

TC -3...+6

EV Hit, Double, Split.

DAS, S 17, 6 deck, not infinity decks.

[aceside]

TC -3...+6

EV Hit, Double, Split.

DAS, S 17, 6 deck, not infinity decks.

Good job. Based on your calculation, I find for this game of 6-deck DAS S-17, no circumstances would allow doubling down on this hand. Right?

There might be some rare situations for Non-DAS games allowing doubling down. Can anybody post?

[Gramazeka]

Good job. Based on your calculation, I find for this game of 6-deck DAS S-17, no circumstances would allow doubling down on this hand. Right?

There might be some rare situations for Non-DAS games allowing doubling down. Can anybody post?

Not. Look closely. DAS.

DD > TC 1.7.

[aceside]

Not. Look closely. DAS.

DD > TC 1.7.

My double-deck games are mostly DAS allowed, so you are saying that I should double down on this hand of 4,4 vs 6 when HiLo TC>+1.7 ? I didn’t know this.

The only stupid non-DAS games I played are in downtown Las Vegas. That was my stupid.

[DSchles]

Too much confusion in this thread. Forget about whether S17 or H17. That isn't the problem. The problem is whether DAS is permitted or not. If yes, you DON'T double! Splitting is basic strategy! If NDAS, you NEVER split. You may double the hand as hard 8 for Hi-Lo 6-deck, S17, if TC >= +2.

Don

[aceside]

If NDAS, you NEVER split. You may double the hand as hard 8 for Hi-Lo 6-deck, S17, if TC >= +2.

This is clear now. Good job.