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    A question on the particulars: does the side bet pay out if some of the cards in your initial hand are gone? For example, dealt 7,7 v 7. You split, and you end up busting one or both new hands. Play continues then the dealer reveals a 7 hole card.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bejammin075 View Post
    A question on the particulars: does the side bet pay out if some of the cards in your initial hand are gone? For example, dealt 7,7 v 7. You split, and you end up busting one or both new hands. Play continues then the dealer reveals a 7 hole card.


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    Dealer paid out side bet first before continue to play BJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Dealer paid out side bet first before continue to play BJ.
    I'm commenting on Craigrow's situation, is that the same side bet as you played? Craigrow mentioned the jackpot is hit on 4-of-a-kind which includes the hole card. Would the dealer be checking the hole card on every up card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bejammin075 View Post
    I'm commenting on Craigrow's situation, is that the same side bet as you played? Craigrow mentioned the jackpot is hit on 4-of-a-kind which includes the hole card. Would the dealer be checking the hole card on every up card?
    Depending on casino, the third seven may be dealer's upcard or the player's third card. If it is latter, player will either hit or split. No one will stand because there is big money on the line. If the player hit and bust, he will be paid the less amount of money. Dealer will remember the player got two sevens and pay the player in the end of the round even he took away the bust cards.

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    Spanish 21 Jackpot

    Thanks Benjamin for steering the thread back on track. The 100% payout is for any four-of-a-kind. If the player busts, the dealer collects the bet but leaves the cards on the table until the dealer’s hole card is revealed, then the jackpot is paid.

    Based on the math above the $9,000 jackpot seems like a good $1 investment. It’s still a long shot, of course. But, if I can invest a $1 every time I see a $9,000+ jackpot, after a few thousand hands I should come out well ahead.


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    Last edited by Craigrow; 01-14-2022 at 03:35 PM.

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    Can you give the flavor of one of the other payouts on the jackpot? I’m thinking about how you could combine the big, infrequent payouts and the smaller, more likely payouts.


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    Spanish 21 Jackpot

    OK. Sorry. Since I wasn’t playing the bet I didn’t pay close attention. I looked up the jackpot payouts.

    4 of a Kind Suited - 100%
    4 of a Kind Same Color - 10%
    4 of a Kind - $200
    3 of a Kind Same Color - $20
    3 of a Kind - $10
    Suited Pair - $3

    When I looked up the rules I also discovered it’s not technically a progressive jackpot. The jackpot amount is set by the casino and not related to the amount paid in.



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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    I'm doing an ace side count with my normal. I'm not using Zen but an almost identical count system. Over time and with lots of practice, you learn to maintain both counts. I count my aces upwards rather than backward. Not sure why authors mostly suggest counting Aces backward. So if my normal count is say +7 and if I saw 3 Aces, mentally I'm thinking of two columns +7 3. It is easier to count aces forward rather than backward because all you have to do is look at the discard tray and you can easily see if poor or rich aces. Just my thoughts on the matter.
    It seems you are using Hi OPT II with ASC. Right? Counting aces in an 8-deck shoe is not easy. When I did it, I stack 8 white chips up in a pile and then I remove one chip from the top whenever 4 aces are gone. This is still too obvious to the casino because I was backed off for doing this. I've never tried two column numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigrow View Post
    OK. Sorry. Since I wasn’t playing the bet I didn’t pay close attention. I looked up the jackpot payouts.
    I've never seen such a thing anywhere. For Spanish 21, the best opportunity is the Match-the-dealer side bet. If BJGenius007 can do two side counts, this bet should be a gold rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    It seems you are using Hi OPT II with ASC. Right? Counting aces in an 8-deck shoe is not easy. When I did it, I stack 8 white chips up in a pile and then I remove one chip from the top whenever 4 aces are gone. This is still too obvious to the casino because I was backed off for doing this. I've never tried two column numbers.
    OmegaII count. I'm only trying to side count with 6 decks (my main game is 6 deck). Only side counting in my daily practice routine, not quite ready to try it live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    OmegaII count. I'm only trying to side count with 6 decks (my main game is 6 deck). Only side counting in my daily practice routine, not quite ready to try it live.
    I am no fan of Omega II but a fan of Hi Opt II. For shoe games, you need Zen. There are some Zen experts on this forum.

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